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I just had the laugh about it when MS announced that Edge will move to Chrome's engine...
When MS switched to Edge it automatically got into the list beside IE (which got in there in the IE5 area, and hasn't been actually checked since), because it is from the same company with known quality and bla-bla-bla-bla... Now Edge is in, it is either will have a new engine (which is open source) or will be re-branded to an other E product, that will go into the list automatically for the very same (and very wrong) reasons Edge (and IE) got in...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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I worked for a company that paid an annual $60,000 licence fee for a conference call system that hardly ever got used - we used WebEx, and other cheaper solutions but the option was still there to use this old system and this was what our company policy actually recommended. It was paid for automatically every year. The person who set it up a decade earlier had left and no-one really knew about it.
When I came in as a Director of Software Development, I noticed it and questioned it ...and then cancelled it. We had been paying for it for over fifteen years without hardly using it at all for over eight years (as long as several people remembered). People thought it was free since everyone could just use it when they wanted - but no-one used it because it was old and clunky!
At the same time, I had to argue long and hard to spent a tiny fraction of that money on development tools such as ReSharper, etc.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Forogar wrote: I had to argue long and hard to spent a tiny fraction of that money on development tools such as ReSharper,
Oh, how much I hate that thing. Why are there always people who go out of their way to inflict this on other people, if they want it or not?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Quote: Oh, how much I hate that thing.
What? Money? 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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That too. I think I will try Communism next.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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It's not working very well for Venezuela...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Nor did it ever work well for anybody.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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#realJSOP wrote: It's sad how the government insists on spending too much money for stupid reasons.
The government's in a Catch 22 situation with this.
If they use your a they save money - and if it breaks are beaten severely for not using approved software.
If they don't us yours, they can be seen as wasting money, but if it doesn't work, whoever put it on the approved software list has their neck on the block.
One party or the other will gloat as they point the finger at whatever they can.
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Solution: Turn it a commercial product and make them the exclusive customer, for a few million dollars. I have no doubt that in some government departments, they'd have an easier time making that fly.
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#realJSOP wrote: It's sad how the government insists on spending too much money for stupid reasons.
Not only the / your government
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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French workers just went on strike.[^] Business as usual for the frogs, no?
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so the news is that for a while they weren't on strike? Gotta be fake.
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Reminds me of that Tom Robbins novel "Even cowgirls get the blues", this head shrink that one morning calls in well - he has realized that he has been sick all the time until now, so now that he is well he will not come to work.
(It must be thirty years since I read that novel! I should dig it up and re-read it, I remember it as funny as hell. Like all Tom Robbins books - as long as you hit the right Tom Robbins. There are, at least, two authors of that name.)
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The dogs got some yellow vests I think.
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I kept reading that article with frogs instead of dogs.
Race-frogs, and in the column on the right a video about fighting-frogs on autoplay.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Did they run past some Sheperds?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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It's old-school time - I'm gonna try installing them on my Linux box. 
First, I have to buy the games, though (I think). I looked on Amazon, and they're surprisingly expensive for being over 20 years old.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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They are about £8 on GoG as well.
Steam has 'em for around £4 each - not sure if they'll work on Linux though.
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Steam version is for Windows only...
GoG version can be played on Linux with some preparation...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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IIRC, Quake 1 has been released to the market, so there is a package (quakespasm) for the engine and files... There are even open source engine ports up to Quake 3...
Do some search and you may find something for free too (at least to see if it worth the money)...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Doom, Hexen and Quake.
We used to have multiplayer gaming sessions where everyone came around to my house lugging big desktop boxes and huge 21" CRT monitors plus keyboard, mouse and speakers (one guy drilled the top of his case and installed a suitcase type handle to make it easier). We had a COAX ethernet network for up to eight machines - if anyone physically disconnected or reconnected we had to restart all the machines.
We use two rooms in the house, four people on tables in each room (good for team games).
Popcorn, crisps, nuts, soda/coffee, etc. My wife would sometimes bake a cake or cookies or even sausage rolls on occasion and then retire to watch TV in the bedroom.
These sessions often started on a Friday evening and went on to the early hours on Saturday morning when we would have a break for the day until resuming Saturday evening until lunchtime on Sunday. Wives and girlfriends would meet up and go out shopping or to the movies or something safe in the knowledge that we weren't going anywhere!
I miss those days. Playing against unknown people on the internet just doesn't cut it the same way.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Nowadays, it would be a lower physical footprint. From what I read, you can play quake on a raspberry pi/HDMI LCD monitor (I have a spare Pi3+, so I'm gonna give it a go, more for curiosity than anything else). A single 8-foot folding table could support up to 8 people. Most modern laptops also have the chops to run Quake 1/2 quite well.
24 and 32-port switches are cheap (Quake 1 is limited to a max of 16 players, and I think QuakeWorld was 32), everyone brings their own 20-foot ethernet cable/keyboard/mouse, and you have a freakin Quake party.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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#realJSOP wrote: everyone brings their own 20-foot ethernet cable/keyboard/mouse, and you have a freakin Quake party.
So when should we show up?
(too bad Texas is a bit too far)
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Well, my intent is to host a quakeworld server, but your level of success will be completely dependent on the latency you experience.
When I'm ready, I'll announce. I'm not sure how it's gonna work because I don't have a static IP, but hey, that's part of the adventure of discovery. 
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I thought you meant an old-school LAN party at your place.
Keep us posted. I'm not much of an online gamer, but I just might make an exception.
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