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a prototype to be exactly what they needed and insisted on taking it directly into production.
Yes. If they can see it, it must be done!
And that colleague that implements more than is asked for? It kind of makes sense to do it if it's going directly from demo to production.
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That's a very bad sign indeed. You are becomming a pointy haired boss and are beginning to sound like them. Have you been bitten by one? I would sprinkle you with holy water and garlic juice, but I am allergic myself to one of them.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
once worked for a boss who would be a perfect match to your man,
this bosses concept of a POC was something that had *full functionality* to be "demonstrated on a subset/sample of the data."
Seriously, one project was: "OK team, we got a potential 5 - 6 month project to develop a package to do account consolidation using 'fuzzy logic account matching' on 60 million records from 3 different systems, we need a POC / demo system to do ALL of those things on a 6000 record sample for a meeting with them next week. We're flying in for the demo next Friday and by the way it has to be on their hardware because they can't release any data [privacy bullshit] even for testing."
I magnanimously offered myself for the role of preparing the powerpoint slides for that meeting.
they can't release any data [privacy bullshit] even for testing
Been there, done that so many, many times. We build commercial inkjet printing systems. I've lost track the number of times a customer has complained of a printing problem, we've asked them to send us their data, and one of two things happen. They either outright refuse, or they send us "pretend" data that was hacked together by hand. We're still supposed to fix their problem, though .
I'm sure they love it when you take their hacked together pretend data, discover that it actually works, and close their problem report as no-repro.
Seriously, unless your customer is the NSA or something similar, that's what NDAs are for.
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Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
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How about the other way around, when I use software (let's say - some popular IDE) that is sold in the millions, and the vendor is too cheap to invest in proper QA and automated tests?
Then, *every* *single* new minor version has some regression in it, and the vendor will not even look at a bug report that doesn't contain a whole bunch of logs and data that we cannot legally release to them.
Also, in many cases a company wants to protect their users' personal information. Legality and regulations aside, this is the ETHICAL thing to. Wouldn't *you* be happy to know that your PII is treated with respect and that access to it is shared with the minimum number of people?
Sure, it's frustrating to the vendor, and to the developers, and to me personally when I'm on the side that needs to fix bugs with limited information - but it is a fair price to pay for having an ecosystem that respects people's information and privacy.
an ecosystem that respects people's information and privacy
Occasionally that's the case, but most often it's far simpler. A number of our customers use our systems to print lottery tickets. Those folks almost never give us data, since they don't want us to print a winning ticket. The ones who print customized catalogs, account statements and the like won't share their data because they're worried about their competitors getting their customer list.
One very useful skill to have is an understanding of what to leave out of a POC. I always try to omit at least one key thing that prohibits the POC from going immediately into production. Otherwise there is strong possibility that it might. You can easily find a whole new set of problems dropped in your lap when that happens and, of course, they have to be fixed immediately since the POC is in production.
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I have an application (classbuilder) that writes all 3 levels of the CRUD code in about 30 seconds for each table/view. Stored proc, API or WCF, client data service and controller if required and even some of the WPF views.
I used to specialise in POC and most went straight to production with only the custom processing required.
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(Vaguely related: I was at G2E last year and one of the big vendors was showing what was clearly a prototype. But, they didn't even bother adding bogus data, so the presenter actually asked us to imagine the data being there.)
I have to agree with the developer and I don't believe this is perfectionism. I have a distinct feeling this is experience and being burned a few times. The specifications you are providing, to me, don't sound fully flushed out and it sounds like there are a whole lot of truly unreasonable expectations of both people and the final system. I am left with two conclusions, either you are building a prototype to demo to reinforce the requirements, in which case the developer SHOULD NOT BE DEVELOPING, or you don't have a full understanding of how systems and people usually function and you need to be looking hard at your expectations.
Call me a skeptic but your stated requirements break down like this, you have someone who wants to create data, never read it, will always input it correctly and always have whatever that data is follow through perfectly. That is what you are describing. From CRUD you are stating is that the data will only be created, well that means you don't need the read to verify the input was correct. You don't need the update because their data will always be input correctly the first time, and never need alteration. The data will always be followed through on (i.e. I have a store and every order ever placed will always be completed and never removed). Unfortunately, none of that sounds true. It sounds more like the specifications aren't fully flushed out and you are prototyping a product that is not whole.
I have seen this, and I may not be exaggerating here, a million times but when you start the sentence off with I have this data, it literally means, I will tell you I don't need CRUD but in reality I do, I just don't realize it yet. I will the day before we launch. In nearly 20 years, I have yet to hear of a system that never needs all of the parts of CRUD. I have bumped into systems that don't need the delete part, but even those are rare.
First of all, I'm really pissed that Microsoft has started using completely worthless digital "badges" instead of certificates when you pass their tests.
But this takes the cake, today I got a mail from Microsoft saying:
Congratulations, you have now been a member of the Microsoft Dynamics Community for 2 years. Click here to redeem your "I've been a member of the Microsoft Dynamics Community for 2 years and all I got was this lousy badge" badge!
Precisely WHY would I want that? Is that all they have to do at Microsoft? And is that really the level of seriousness you can expect from a world leading company of Microsoft's size???
Yeah, I know that the mail was autogenerated, but still, somebody has put time and effort into developing this "valuable" feature... If they hadn't used a noreply mail address, I would have told them exactly what they could do with their "badge"!
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It's a sort of gamification.
Collecting badges is fun and gives a sense of accomplishment.
And while not something of real business value it does say something about your level of commitment and may even give an incentive to be more active.
If I had to hire one out of two people and one is loaded with badges that would certainly be a plus.
Kind of like CPs reputation system.
As far as I know they don't replace actual exam certificates though...