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That is the point! I just got in to hot water for raising what was a bug as a software change...
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: This all sits together very uneasily.
The way Jira implements it, it's like four monopole magnets. They all want to run away from each other! 
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Depends on who manages it, I find it quite good. It can ease management and tracking.
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Any bugtracker/task management system needs a dedicated manager.
Jira is no different.
Let programmers program and managers manage.
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Luckily there are alternatives for Jira, so take your pick: jira-alternatives[^]
And also: project-management-tools[^] about Jira it says:
Quote: If you use Jira you are pretty much locked inside their ecosystem. For example, if you want to add a tool to your project management stack (like a wiki) more often than not you will have to buy one of Atlassian's tools
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I went from Fogbugz to Jira for issue tracking because I could cheaply use it on my server and Fogbugs for your server went out of sight cost wise when I wasn't looking.
Jira is slow and clunky but free, it's a wonderful toy.
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2 out of 3. Bad and waste of time. Granted, there are people here that like it. It may be that we're not using it correctly here, or that it's not set up right, etc. Regardless, my experience (and I've been forced to use it over the years at various companies) is that it's a pile of dung.
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It depends on who's using it.
As Marc said, too many people are "I don't give a sh1t", and that goes especially for things like doing their bit with pride in Jira and documentation.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Is there any specific sports event that broke you really hard?
I think the feeling I'm talking about can be related only by people who follow sports with some deeper involvement. 
Maybe a soccer match, rugby, basketball- can be anything.
I'm usually not inclined on "watching" sports. I consider it a bit of time-waster.
But what happened yesterday was a bit depressing that I almost applied for a half a day leave to get out of it.
It's a cricket match (Please don't boo! lol) between India & New Zealand. And It's a Semi-final.
We lost it by a whisker. The Kiwis just stole a win.
It's a 4 years wait. It all got spoiled with a few minutes of bad decisions on the field.
Now that India is gone, it's gonna be New Zeland vs (England Vs Aussies)
I'm rooting for England. Good Luck guys!
And yesterday's match was more emotional as one of our most fav. players were having his last game.
This turned into a national phenomenon.
Literally, it just sent people to roll over and cry.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/icc-world-cup-the-video-of-ms-dhoni-crying-on-being-run-out-has-got-entire-india-weeping/452039[^]
It went to the extent that the cameraman shooting the event, broke down. It's all shared on twitter.
If you had followed cricket ever, you should just check out this huge incident. It's dramatic.
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The CXIVth Galaxy Series Brockian Ultra-Cricket match Final.
Nobody knows which teams were playing (see The Rules[^]) but what a match!
Crying at a cricket result? Come on ... get a life!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Crying at a cricket result?
No, not the result, but what it did to MSD[^].
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OriginalGriff wrote: Crying at a cricket result? Come on ... get a life!
The whole nation!
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I found this to be way more interesting than any sports event I've ever seen (which can be counted on one hand) or heard of (which are quite a few more, unfortunately) 
Pinocchio killing the cricket seems a bit harsh, but the original Pinocchio[^] looks like a real scumbag
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I'll never get how the achievements (or lack thereof) of a few individuals, whom I've never met, can have any impact on my life whatsoever.
The content they produce might, like a book or story, or if they're politicians who make up new laws for me to live by, but sports doesn't produce anything.
I get how a match can be exciting, especially if you want a particular team or person to win, but never to the point where their loss can stir anything more than temporary mild disappointment.
That said, I really don't like sports.
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Sander Rossel wrote: I get how a match can be exciting, especially if you want a particular team or person to win, but never to the point where their loss can stir anything more than temporary mild disappointment.
I was aware, this would be a bit difficult to relate to. It's more of an Indian sub-continent thing.
It's hard to believe, but it was a wave sweeping across the nation. Just a little game! lol
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Nand32 wrote: It's more of an Indian sub-continent thing
It's not though, us Dutch have ice skating and football we get all worked up over.
In fact, Europe is all about football.
Americans have their Superbowl or whatever.
There's also the Olympics.
I think every nation in the world has their sport they get all excited about.
Cities have teams.
Over here it's so bad that when football teams Ajax (Amsterdam) and Feyenoord (Rotterdam) have to play a match against each other there's always riots (they, or rather their "fans", are sworn enemies somehow).
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU RIOTING OVER A GAME YOU DIDN'T EVEN PLAY!? 
Anyway, whether a team wins or loses, their fans are moved to tears.
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Although like Sander I can't get very emotional about sports events, don't get the impression that all Dutch people are like this, they surely can get emotional when it concerns soccer, cycling, skating and last but not least Fierljeppen !
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Nand32 wrote: Is there any specific sports event that broke you really hard?
Yes, the Heysel Stadium disaster[^].
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 In cricket, fans get so involved but it never turns into violence. May be that's why it's called gentlemen's game?
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Maybe, I don't know cricket to be honest. I just simply could not let any sport-event-result have a significant impact on my mood.
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Unfortunately the cricket world cup is pretty much hidden away in the UK on a pay sports channel. It has had very little effect here.
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Nand32 wrote: t's a cricket match (Please don't boo! lol) between India & New Zealand.
Ah... I watched that game from the end although I was keeping in touch throughout via espn. And I can safely say almost all Pakistanis did too. Tough luck, not getting through to the finals result without the rain would've (probably) been totally different. I really expected an Ind v Aus final.
Nand32 wrote: Is there any specific sports event that broke you really hard?
Sure, the 2010 spot fixing scandal did it for me. You probably know of it, since clearly you are a cricket fan too. Pakistan was on England's tour and 4 players were marked for spot fixing the match Slaman Butt, M. Amir, M. Asif and Kamran Akmal. Three were indicted and were banned from playing sports for a minimum of 5 years.
Spot fixing or match fixing wasn't something that was unheard of, 90's was a crazy time for it, but somehow this struck really hard and I have never been able to invest myself in cricket as I did earlier. When I used to watch entire matches including tests, every single ball, I had averages, strike rates of all the major teams batsman and bowlers at my fingertips. I could talk in detail about the lack of any specific aspect in technique of a specific batsman and bowler (a bit about bowlers too), find their flaws and suggest corrections.
This incident also hit so hard because of the timing: it was the rebuilding period where young players were just starting to come forward and take charge. In the past old/senior players had always dominated the team. I was an advocate for a young team with only a few senior players with a young captain, that was just the recipe I had proposed after the 2007 world cup debacle.
Ever since I've been a lot more distant from cricket, now I only watch some Pakistan matches and never all of it.
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Abbas A. Ali wrote: Sure, the 2010 spot fixing scandal did it for me. You probably know of it, since clearly you are a cricket fan too. Pakistan was on England's tour and 4 players were marked for spot fixing the match Slaman Butt, M. Amir, M. Asif and Kamran Akmal. Three were indicted and were banned from playing sports for a minimum of 5 years.
That was a shock for the whole cricketing world.
In particular, we pitied Amir. He's a great talent. Though there's a real hostility between India & Pak on the game, I would love to support top talents like Amir. He reminds me of Wasim Akram.
When I heard these guys have gone after the money, illegally. It did disappoint, greatly.
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