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That's the nicest "I disagree" I've ever seen Laugh | :laugh:

So let's start off by saying they're never free because you pay taxes, which pays (part of) your school or medical bill.
That said, when you look at what these things cost after taxes, the USA is one the most expensive "developed" countries by far.

When looking at Here's what college costs in 28 countries around the world - INSIDER[^] you can see that college is free in Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Norway, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden and Turkey.
In the Netherlands you get money from the government to pay for tuition and housing and on top of that college is heavily funded.
I'm not sure how it is now, but when I went to college the money you got was gifted if you finished in four or five years.
This used to be different, but we got some people who went to college for a long time, like ten years, and kept getting all those benefits.
According to that list, the average tuition per year is $2.420 in the Netherlands, which sounds about right (I can't really say if that's incl. or excl. the money students get from the government).
Personally, I paid around €1.600 in tuition and I had to pay for books, but I got a good €90 a month (which is low because I lived at home and my parents had a decent salary, my girlfriend at the time got over €400).
Even the USA's arch nemesis, Mexico, does very well with only $527 a year.
Compare that to the USA, $8.202 a year, which nets 14% of students a student debt of $50.000 or higher.

I don't know of any countries that have free healthcare, but I do know that when I get cancer I won't have to worry about the costs.
That's not what most Americans can say, or so I've heard: How does health spending in the U.S. compare to other countries? - Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker[^].
Healthcare in the USA is almost twice as expensive as in Europe, but not better nor used more frequently.
Look up other lists and they'll show comparative figures.
The catch, because there's always a catch, is that I ALWAYS pay for healthcare even if I don't use it.
That's because health insurance is mandatory and it costs me around €70 a month, which is pretty cheap (I have the highest own risk, which means I pay €800 when I need treatment, instead of €350, which is the lowest own risk).
I'm also not insured for everything, like psychiatric help, so if I ever need a psychiatrist, the bills could still add up, although not as much as in the USA.
I believe insurance is not mandatory in the USA, but even the most basic insurance is a multitude of what we pay in Europe.

So what I probably meant to say was "All those taxes and you're still crippled by student or healthcare debt Big Grin | :-D "
At least you can still buy a gun to end it all if such a bill ever presents itself.
Which is part sarcasm and, as the numbers show, part truth.

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