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Sander Rossel8-Sep-19 1:44
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You're making a huge mistake, thinking that people are logical and reasonable Smile | :)

Here's how such a conversation could work out as well:

NH: *I can't really say the others make me feel stupid, because that would give off the signal that I might be stupid or insecure and I don't want to be a snitch.*
You: "Hi, I want to reassure you you are doing okay, and meeting our expectations."
NH: "Yeah, I'm fine, I really like it here and I'm learning a lot." *I don't know how much of this sh*t I can take.*
You: "So you have no worries at all?"
NH: "Well... It's all pretty complex, but I think I'm managing quite well." *Phew, almost blew it there.*
You: "How are your coworkers?"
NH: "They really help me out." *They're all assholes for making me feel stupid.*

And then two things can happen, either the new hire stays long enough to become the a**hole he think the others are, or he quits and finds a new job because there are plenty of them.

I've had a discussion with a coworker about logging.
He thought my code had to few logging and couldn't find a bug because of it.
I found the bug in five minutes and it was actually HIS code that was faulty.
He was like "NO SANDER! YOUR CODE NEEDS MORE LOGGING!"
Me: "But I could find it in five minutes, the logging literally says which function threw the exception and it's only a couple of lines. So how much logging do you need, after every statement?"
Him: "I want logging at the beginning and at the end of the function!"
Me: "But that wouldn't help as we already know the code entered the function, but didn't finish correctly..."
Him: "IT WOULD HELP ME!"
Me: "Fine."
He then went to our manager because "fine" wasn't the correct answer, he wanted a sincere apology and that I'd add the logging because I saw his point rather then making him shut up.
We got along pretty well, but I don't think he ever liked me anymore after that.
I wasn't the only one who had troubles with that guy.
He was pretty resentful and took everything personally.
So tell me how people like that are an asset to any team, even if they are brilliant?
Unfortunately, a lot of people are like that (this guy wasn't even the most toxic of the team, go figure).

I agree that "getting along" is probably a bad measure, but some form of social skills and ability to work in a team are at least as important as programming skills.
And nothing kills teamwork more than a bloated ego.

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