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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Laws: written primary by lawyers so you need to hire a lawyer to understand what's going on.
Here in Norway, there has for at least 30 years (I think it is more than that) been a language expert going through all proposed laws and changes in laws, to ensure that they are reasonably readable to common man.

The first one in the job (Finn-Erik Vinje), university professor in Norwegian language, was for 20+ years the primary language consultant of the Norwegian public radio, and for 25 years he was the host of a very popular weekly radio progam about the Norwegian language. So, he knows very well both everday and formal Norwegian. He retired 15 years ago, but was followed by another guy (Sylfest Lomheim), carrying very much of the same qualifications.

As a result, Norwegian laws are surprisingly readable even to common man. Older people (that is, my age...) remember laws as something cryptic that - as you say - requires a lawyer to understand. When I drag them over to my PC, showing them how easily you can access the database presenting all laws, and all accompanying regulations, and how readable the texts are, they cheer up: Hey, I can understand that! (Younger people have accessed the laws on the web for 20+ years; they know that the laws are easy to understand.)

The Norwegian law system has a few other aspects making them easier to understand: We have no regional or local laws; all laws are national. A town may have its local parking regulations, but that is because the national laws explicitly leaves specific details to local regulations,serving as "local interpretations" of the national law (e.g. local parking regulations). You are judged by the national law; if a local regulation wasn't founded on a national law, it couldn't be used against you in court.

Fairly recently it was decided that all supreme court verdics over the years will also be made publicly available (for free) to everybody. Until now the have been available to lawyers, but before they can be publicized, they will be scrubbed of private and personal information, to anonymize the parties.

I guess we are quite well off in this country with respect to laws. There are of course lots of borderline cases where you need a lawyer's help to know which side of the line you are on (and to help you make it look as if you are on the legal side...), but generally speaking, you can understand the intention of the laws even if you have no degree from the university.
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