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I think the word you're looking for is "honour".
It's almost vanished completely.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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i mean maybe that too? but i was talking about wisdom
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The chances of there ever being wisdom are zilch.
We will get it, and therefore stop killing each other, when hell freezes over. The chances of the latter happening is zilch and so is the chance of the first proposition.
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What is missing in the equation is morality. To have wisdom requires having morals as well as knowledge. Wisdom is the good (or correct) and wise use of knowledge.
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I tend to take the view I came away with after reading the Babylonian Talmud, and that is that morality is a facet of wisdom. That is to say, the most effective choices are also the most moral choices, but human morality itself is wanting, which is why it imposes a different way of computing morals through microcontracts.
It's an interesting way to approach it anyway. It's not for everyone. I'm not even jewish, but I stumbled onto this and it has appealed to me ever since.
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I am currently looking for a gig, preferably remote since my medical situation has evolved to a 'work from home if possible'. I hate to sound biased, and I try my best not to be, but I would really like to talk to recruiters that have some modicum of knowledge speaking the English language. Caller IDs say they are anywhere from Wisconsin to Texas to Alabama, but very few of them can make themselves understood to the point I feel comfortable making any kind of agreements over the phone.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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stoneyowl2 wrote: speaking the English language.
How dare you want to work with someone you can understand. Typical privileged American. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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What is this 'priviledge' you speak of? The only privilege I have at the moment is being born left-handed  . That just overrides the detriments of being broke, jobless and (I just found out) needing expensive medical treatments for liver disease and dupuytren strictures in both hands. 
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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Quote: Typical privileged American.
When you say that stranger, I strongly advise you to smile. 
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It's just that they use offshore HR to reduce cost.
But then those offshore HR people need to find Americans! 
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stoneyowl2 wrote: Caller IDs say they are anywhere from Wisconsin to Texas to Alabama, but very few of them can make themselves understood
In America, they haven't spoken it for years.
-- Prof. Henry Higgins
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Once you start understanding what they say, you will then be amazed by their lack of knowledge of what they are talking. This is why I prefer to apply directly on the company's website and choose email over phone.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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You don't sound biased at all.
You do sound pretty racist though.
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Starting last August, a large retail store chain (name withheld to protect the innocent) had been sending me a pay statement (as a password-protected PDF file) as an email attachment to one of my many addresses. I suspect some lady is an employee, and she doesn't have an email address of her own, so she might have provided her husband's to her employer (pure speculation from my part). Only, she didn't quite get the address right, and I've been getting those statements. That particular email address starts with my actual name, so it's absolutely conceivable she's married to someone who shares my name (he's got a much more public profile on the internet than I do--if it is who I think it might be).
I got these emails every 2 weeks for months, and all my "I'm not the intended recipient" messages back went unanswered, until I went out of my way last month to find a contact on the store chain's web site. The emails have stopped. The nice lady was very apologetic and explained to me they have no way to verify that an email address provided by an employee is correct. Personally I didn't mind the error; I don't care and it's easy enough for me to ignore any such email or set up a rule to automatically trash it based on sender.
Lo and behold, I'm thinking my email is also part of a separate list they also maintain, because I just got another email from the same company--sent to a "training@[companyname.com]" alias. This email is telling me that, as part of some upcoming training session, they're going to soon email me my user name and a link, and a follow-up email containing my temporary password.
Since I only ever got a single contact from that company, I dug up her email again and explained that someone in their IT department is planning to send login credentials to an unverified account, and how bad an idea that is.
I'm not a security expert and I don't necessarily know what the best practices are, but if you're going to email login credentials to employees (at a massive scale), shouldn't those emails all stay within your own [companyname.com] domain, and not personal, random Hotmail, Outlook, Gmail, Yahoo etc addresses that employees have provided to you?
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When I was in high school, I pointed out a computer system flaw to trusted teachers and school administration (I knew the principal and was on good terms with him, being a good student and all), and they actually turned on me and got me in a bit of trouble, which left a very bad taste in my mouth. I'm hoping [big faceless corporation] isn't going to take this the wrong way and sic its lawyers on me. Maybe I should just STFU. I'm just trying to do the right thing.
modified 6-Feb-20 13:55pm.
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I don't think you could be charged for pointing out an error. On the contrary, the more prooves you'll have that you informed them of their mistake, the better. You could even send them a recorded delivery letter, just to be sure they get the message. And it could serve as a proof if they would try to sue you.
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke!
Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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I hope nothing happens to you, and it probably won't, but I stopped pointing out security flaws after I had an ISP come after me for it when I was a teen.
Not my fault SMB was insecure as hell and they had an internet facing NT4 machine that bridged their local network onto the internet.
I sent them a message box on the screen of that PC, explaining i was a user and warning them of the flaw.
Maybe that wasn't the best way to do it, but I wanted to highlight the urgency of it, so I figured an email wouldn't cut it.
They weren't pleased.
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honey the codewitch wrote: Maybe that wasn't the best way to do it,
Agreed. I'm pointing out the flaw via "normal" channels. You took advantage of the flaw to make them aware of it. If I've learned anything, it's that this is a big no-no.
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I wasn't exactly known for making good decisions as a teenager. 
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...and why stop there, right?
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hahaha never ask a bipolar person that. we are pretty extreme/intense. we will have an answer, and it's always a dramatic one.
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I'm just trying to see if I can trigger you.
Should I start worrying yet about being able to live to tell the tale?
(and in the unlikely event you're taking me seriously: ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) Never take me seriously.)
Had a girlfriend once who--if I didn't know any better--I could swear was bi-polar. What a roller-coaster ride. The highs were high, but the lows were just too low for me. I'm cautious to a fault these days.
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dandy72 wrote: I'm just trying to see if I can trigger you.
Good luck as I'm heavily medicated against it. =)
dandy72 wrote: Should I start worrying yet about being able to live to tell the tale?
Nah, I'll probably just hex you and make your eyebrow hair fall out or something.
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