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GeneralRe: Can we please stop being nerds and geeks and just pretend to be like a normal user? Pin
Jörgen Andersson19-Feb-20 5:34
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Mark_Wallace19-Feb-20 6:51
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Member 798912219-Feb-20 22:34
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
If you want a different style, create the style, don't use the writing-to-granny-once-a-year buttons.
That doesn't solve the problem.

If you type new text immediately following bold text, the new text is bold as well. To me, that is fine. Newlines are part of the text.
If you turn bold on, type xxx <crlf>, bold off, then the <crlf> is bold and if you (later) position the cursor at the start of the new line and type yyy, that yyy is in bold. Perfectly logical.
If you turn bold on, type xxx, bold off and then <crlf>, the <crlf> is not bold and if you (later) position the cursor at the start of the new line and type yyy, that yyy is not in bold. Perfectly logical.
The only way to see that they behave differently is by the bold button being activated in the first case, not the second one, when you place the cursor at start of the second line. What more did you expect?

Now if you define a text style and apply it to the text and the newline, you are still in that style after the newline. If you apply it to the text excluding the newline, new text following the newline is not in that style. The only way see if the style is active or not, immediately following the newline, is to look at the style indications; you can't guess it from the text.

You might argue: But no text style should extend beyond a newline! Again, this is independent of bold key or style. And I would hate it: If I write four consecutive paragrphs that are to be in the same style, I would hate having to set the style at the start of each and every paragraph.

Or do you want a logic that depends on how I got to given point in the text? If I place the cursor at a given point in the text, it behaves differently from if the cursor is at exactly the same spot in exactly the same text, but that is because the character to the left of it was just inserted? Would the way of insertion matter - e.g. should past count like keyboard input or like explicitly positioning? What about an autocorrect insertion - like keyboard input, like pasting or like explicit positioning? Whatever you choose, some users will think it is illogical.

What if you made a style called BoldText, made it read only, and assigned the Ctrl-B key to toggle this style on and off, in which ways would this be better than Ctrl-B toggling bold on and off?
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