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First I though you were talking about your smartphone subscription: Gee, why don't you do those huge downloads from your PC? Then I realized that you were talking about your fixed line subscription, not your smartphone. Last night I downloaded 70 GB on my fixed line within a couple of hours...

I don't think any ISP around here would dare to limit the download volume on a fixed line. It doesn't cost the ISP a cent more to let you use the capacity physically available (for 4G/5G wireless access there is a real bandwidth shortage, and that can't be cured by just pulling a few more optical fibers). Sure: I must accept that sometimes, a single web server cannot fully utilize my 100 Mbps fiber connection, but two or three independent transfers fill up my subscription line to capacity. In high traffic periods, maybe my ISP's outwards connections are overloaded, but I have never really experienced that as a real capacity problem.

Why would a fixed line ISP want to limit my data volume? Where is the capacity bottleneck justifying it? Or is it just some artificial limitation imposed on meto make you pay more if I want more, even though the capacity has been available all the time?

Historical note:

I once worked for a manufacturer of "supermini"-computers (in the 1980s, supermini was a well known concept - the VAX class). One 32-bit CPU had been marketed, the "ND-500", but the market wanted a range from cheap models to high-range. The company had no resources to develop multiple CPU architectures for varying demands. So it was seriously discussed whether to release a "low-end" model with lots of wait cycles in the microcode (in RAM) to slow it down. This was rejected: Removing CPU cache would reduce the component cost by about USD 50K and half the effective speed of the CPU for the "low end" ND-520, compared to the "mid-range" ND-540. That made it a "real", non-artifical, restriction of the speed obtained.

A few months after the introduction of the ND-5x0 range I held a course for our customers. One student was close to physically attacking me when I told her that the ND-560 her company had bought was no faster than an ND-540 - nothing but a two-rack model, capable of accomodating more I/O-equipment than the single-rack ND-540. She insisted that her company had been fooled, been tricked into bying the more expensive two-rack setup. (No, she never could show to any documentation indicating that the ND-560 would be any faster than an ND-540.)

So: What the ISP/vendor says about power and capacity should be considered very critically. If we had gone for the microcode wait cycles, the CPU speed could have been doubled simply by loading a different microcode floppy. That solution was rejected, but lots of the "throtteling" mechansims that ISPs implement have no other real purpose than to set different price levels for different customers.

Here (Norway, that is), your fixed line subscription price is solely based on the line capacity, not at all on the traffic on the line. If there is some congestions, somewhere out in the network between you and the site you are connected to: Well, that is your problem, not that of the ISP.
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