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I used to be able to position the mouse on the down arrow button at the bottom of a scrollbar and leave it there, so as I'm reading text, I can just keep hitting the mouse button to bring up the next couple of lines and keep reading.
But since the scrollbars (and the button) now disappear, clicks register against the canvas, and not on the scrollbar, which is no longer there, so the click events do nothing. So, I have to move the mouse around to bring back the scrollbar, then reposition the cursor on top of the down button, then click it. Then a second later the button disappears again, so I have to repeat every time I want to scroll. Using the cursor keys isn't always an option, as you can have multiple levels of windows each with their own scrollbar, so the cursor down event might be going to the wrong target. Positioning the mouse on the button removes that uncertainty.
When I see sites like that I like to inspect the code and more often than not I discover something that leads me to believe (with a high degree of confidence) that the site was written in Ruby on Rails. Or maybe Django. Not that I haven't seen horrid sites written in Microsoft tech, one only needs to look at Microsoft's own site and Office365 online.
It's a free-for-all out there, and the web development community is in free-fall.
and the web development community is in free-fall.
Marc Clifton wrote:
and the web development community is in free-fallfail.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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It's a free-for-all out there, and the web development community is in free-fall
Years ago I was basically being moved away from a traditional desktop client/server app developer role into a web dev role. Then a few months ago I told my boss I had to go back to something I'm more familiar with because--I told him bluntly--as a software developer, that's not what I had signed up for. Portfolio diversity be damned. It had come to a point where I dreaded getting up in the morning. It's not that I couldn't hack it, I just hated every aspect of it.
If I can make it to retirement without ever having to do web development...I'll be happy. If I can't - I honestly would consider an early retirement. I just can't find the motivation for that crap.
If there's one thing I won't be doing with my "spare time" once retired...it's web development. Unless it becomes a whole different ball of wax by then. However, based on its 20+ year history, I don't see it happening.
I'm all in favour of ham-fisted, messy, badly-designed pages for people's personal sites (if a guy wants to have his say about something or just be a part of the Internet, he shouldn't have to study for three years to do so), but the slightest sign of unprofessionalism in site design for a company makes me not want to risk doing business with that company.
For me, not being willing or able to do a job well means not being willing or able to do a job well.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I complained about this last week. One of our company websites is being redesigned using WordPress...the theme is huge graphics, animations, super large titles and lot's of wasted space. Unfortunately, I'll be the one charged with maintaining it.
In the good old days the key thing about displaying information on a screen was to provide such information in a compact, readable form
The reason we crammed everything on a screen in 'the good old days' was because of technical limitations, not because it was easy to use or inviting to use. Also, users usually had no alternatives, so how they felt in practice about it didn't matter.
We have some of these applications at my current client. They are horrible.
As for your example: I agree that that is bad UX. But it's not a good example of why whitespace is bad.
I couldn't agree more. User interfaces especially those of UK high street banks are appalling but nowhere near as poor as the UK government web sites. These have been designed to guide you through a process that you find it hard to circumvent.
It's almost like someone took a script / flowchart out of a book and tried to turn it into a web based menu driven system. When I access the site I want to see a log on and log out button somewhere near the top of the page, nope, all of this is hidden until they have determined what you "might need to do today". Then it's a matter of answering 4 or 5 questions with button clicks which take you from one page to the next. Almost as though someone thought, "hey we'd better keep the pages small but lets have loads of white space to make it look clean".
Shoddy beyond belief.
Probably designed by a cousin of the guy who designed the hospital laboratory information system screens that now require lots of page flips to do routine work because the others were "too busy" ... skilled knowledge workers like busy screens, naive ones not so much.
No one else tried to find what site he was talking about?
Both Fedex and UPS seem like fine
Without the reference, first thought sounds more like UI issue not UX (im one of the a-holes that try to seperate the two - look of interface vs how user engages with interface)
The abundance of white space might be a part of the transition away from the skeuomorphic designs. It takes time to figureout a balance and I think there is still wiplash effects of this change starting 10 years ago.
A comment made when I was doing my degree sticks with me. You got this big screen (might have been 800x600 or 1024×768) and all your doing is typing text. There is no need to have the application full screen.
So urks me when some devs have a notepad fullscreen while switching to a browser of some other application.
yeah, teenagers using psychedelic stuff in the weekend, then hit the commit button monday at work after quickly adjust the ui to match what they have experienced in their trip. you are the problem ! navigate to their site only when having some dmt stuff in your blood as well, and you'll be just fine