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Both in Norwegian and Swedish: Which English terms are replaced by local ones, which are not, seems quite random. Neither language has come up with some replacement for "embedded" - several propsals have failed to break through. For some reason, "skyen" (the cloud), a direct translation but a completely different word, was immediatly accepted. "Compiler" was replaced by the Norwagization "kompilator", while "interface" was replaced by "grensesnitt" which is really an all new word: "border cut" - both halves are old an well known, but the combination is a new word.

In Norwegian, some terms were initially frowned upon as "anglisisms", until it was understood that they are really words from the Norse language. In my childhood, "bag" was among these, but "baggin" is Norse - we just have forgotten it for a few hundred years. In east Norway dialects, the computer "printer" was first rejected, you should call it a "skriver" (writer). But West Norway dialects always referred to printed matter as "prent", a book/newspaper printer as a "prentar". So today, "printer" is a fully accepted term.

Even the worlds best known four-letter-word (... returning to the first post in this thread), "fokka" is a Norse verb for rythmically hammering, in particular when done by the male in intimate activities. So although lots of Norwegians think they use English terms when swearing, they really are using Norse ones!

Up until 20-30 years ago, Icelanders made great efforts to keep their language "clean". There was a weekly radio program for discussing "Icelandic style" terms for all sorts of new concepts. My favorite is "ferdatölva": "Ferda" is travel, a "volva" is a (semi-mythological) truthsayer, which combined with "tall", numbers, make her a "number truthsayer". A traveling number-truthsayer is what we call a "laptop". I would actually prefer "ferdatolva" Smile | :)
(Icelanders I meet today tell that today, they have more or less broken in to the pressure, there is no longer the same force to keep the language clean.)

I don't think there is any way you could be fined in Norway for using a "non-Norwegian" term; we have no "language police" nor "pure language" laws. You could be fined (or even imprisoned) for writing immoral texts, not based on single words but on the text as a whole. When was the last time that happened? 50+ years ago, Jens Bjørneboe with "Uten en tråd"?

(Now I am talking about publicised text - we have had a few cases in recent years where some people have written down their fantasies and shown to friends, and those friends have taken it to the police to report on the the author's fantasies. "Well, I've got a new set of friends now", as Peter Shieckele says in one of his recordings. We don't have a thought police in this country, as long as you do not reveal your thoughts to your friends...)
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