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OriginalGriff wrote: "Cr@p! We're all gonna die!"
In a an informal chat with my boss today, he pointed out that in this country (Norway), every year almost a thousand people die from the regular flu. Corona is not getting really serious until it gets up do that level. We currently have a death count of seven, so for now, we really shouldn't be too munch in a panic.
I agreed, and for the sake of staying calm: This country has around sixty thousand deaths every year, no matter from which angle you see it, and we have no way of preventing that. Deaths from ordinary flu are almost exclusively elderly people. Today, you always die from one thing or another. One out of sixty deaths is from the flu. The flu is just one of many possible ways of dying. Corona is another. Mortality rate is invariably one per person.
My boss was silent for so long that I suspect that he had never before looked at it from that angle.
(You could make another comparison: As long as fewer people are killed by Corona than by car accidents, then it isn't that bad.)
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Member 7989122 wrote: in this country (Norway)
Perhaps update your profile. Norway, so far as I know, didn't apply for statehood.
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This isn't about death rates now: it's about what happens when the number of cases that need serious medical intervention exceeds the medical facilities available.
When that happens, the situation is radically out of control, and the death rate doesn't rise - it skyrockets. Flue is a relatively innocuous disease: it kills 0.01% of people it infects. This, the number suggest kills 3.5% - probably more once it starts to run away with itself.
For Britain, the population is 60M, so 3% is 2.4M. If 2.4M people needed serious medical intervention at the same time, there isn't a country in the world that could provide it, and most if not all (or more!) would not survive.
This is about reducing the number of serious cases to manageable levels, while ramping up medical resources as much as possible and keeping them manageable to prevent the infection rate going ballistic.
If car accidents were infectious, your analogy would work...
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Nand32 wrote: what the "C" in Corona & Covid stand
"C" is for cookie.
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racist is when you unjustly pick on someone of another race without basis.
factual statements are not racist.
Covid 19 originated in Wuhan, China.
H1N1 Swine Flu most likely originated in Mexico
SARS (also a coronavirus) believed to originate (first reported) from China
Spanish Flu (also H1N1) believed to originate from hospitalised British Troops stationed in France
Kangaroos are Australian marcupials.
none of the above are racist. They're all just facts.
The nearest to "racist" of any of these would be the Spanish Flu - but no, it's NOT racist either.
pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun
1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague.
2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil.
Synonyms: pest, plague, people
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lopatir wrote: Covid 19 originated in Wuhan, China.
H1N1 Swine Flu most likely originated in Mexico
SARS (also a coronavirus) believed to originate (first reported) from China
Spanish Flu (also H1N1) believed to originate from hospitalised British Troops stationed in France
Kangaroos are Australian marcupials.
And the Lounge is not the soapbox.
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I don't see it as racist (is there one Chinese race? Never heard about that before!).
But it is definitely a very political use of the term. Calling it "the virus from our enemies" would also be "factual": Noone would argue that USA considers China to be The Enemy in a lot of ways, economy in particular. So by the same logic, he could refer to the virus from our enemies. Which no doubt is a reference with a strong political element.
And that is exactly what he does. The virus is certainly a negative thing. It is in his political interest to associate as much negative as possible to the enemy, especially in a pep talk. The press conferences the last few days have been nothing but pep talks. Take away all the pep talk, and what remains (if anything at all) is plain bullshit. These talks are not to provide significant information (of which there is very little), but to tell how great everything and himself are. And how bad the enemy is, sending viruses and everything.
Remember when France wouldn't dance by the pipe of the USA, and "French Fries" were renamed "Freedom Fries"? That was also "factual" - the fries in the USA have never been close to France. But this renaming certainly was not made to create a more factual term; it was an explicit politicial signal: We turn our backs to France, when they are not doing what we tell them to do!
These two renaming cases are equally politically founded. There is no need to "inform" people about well known facts, by using a different term than all the rest of world, and even most of the US society. It is all about politics.
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As a side note, these are Hangul (Korean) characters, not Chinese ideograms.
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I'm American. Don't expect me to understand anything foreign. 
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ZurdoDev wrote: I'm American. Don't expect me to understand anything foreign.
We most certainly don't!
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Callate triste cuate!
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I was actually thinking more in the direction of "comprehend", not language-wise.
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I comprehend what I wrote just fine. Do you? 
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Well, first I decided to, but then you wouldn't know.
So by telling you, I prove that I didn't.
That's what you wanted me to, right?
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I still have no idea what you are saying.
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Well, you told us that you are an American, didn't you?
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Klaatu barada nikto to you too, buddy.
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Next time please don't help the spammers and edit the subject.
I am correcting the whole thread
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I consider myself quite savvy as far as Windows computers are concerned, but not so much when it comes to networks.
I would like to learn more about VPNs, but I have no experience in this field. If you were to start with a VPN for the first time today: Which VPN would you choose? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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I have three different ones, that I use on different machines at different times.
Of these, I prefer Surfshark[^]
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I chose IPVanish after reading various online reviews and have been using it for a couple of years now. In part, the best choice depends on where you're located. I use Windows exclusively and am located in Canada, although I've also used IPVanish in the US. I would recommend that you read some reviews to see which one best fits your needs.
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[edit] Never mind! [/edit]
Do you mean VM (Virtual Machine) or VPN (Virtual Private Network)
You're question leaves me wondering.
VPN - How to Set Up Your Own Home VPN Server[^]
VM's - Best virtual machine software of 2020: virtualization for different OS | TechRadar[^]
If you're talking about VM's, I've used Oracle Virtual Box (which is free) and VMWare's free VM. Both work great, but I like the configuration options better in Virtual Box. Feels like I have more control over the VM - processors, memory, disk space, network, than I do with VMWare's free version.
But maybe you meant VPN's after all - no experience there, because the company sets it up and I just connect to it.
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