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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Besides, saying that the line terminator is \r\n is still imprecise; a line begins with \n and ends with \r .
Actually, the ISO standard 646, and its followers that include ISO 646 as a subset, defines CR and LF as completely orthogonal functions. LF advances the vertical position by one line, explicitly stating that the horizontal position is not affected. CR sets the horizontal position back to the start of the line, explictly stating that the vertical position is not affected.

So from an ISO 646 point of view, CR LF and LF CR are equally valid. Also valid is making two blank lines before the following text as [preceeding text]LF LF LF CR[following text].

What gets you to the beginning of a line is the CR. So it would be more correct to say that CR starts the line. If your file contains xxx<lf>yyy<lf>zzz, it would look like
xxx
   yyy
      zzz
, by the ISO standard. Note that nothing is printed before the yyy and zzz, there are no spaces overwriting previous output, just a change of vertical position.

xxx[CR]yyy[CR]zzz would display xxx, yyy and zzz on top of each other. (Whether it appears as a real overprint or as a replacement depends on the physical presentation device.) Whether you call that one line or three lines on top of each other is a matter of definition.
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