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honey the codewitch28-Nov-20 6:14
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That makes sense to me. How I've looked at the sins of the father dynamics is that because they *are* visited on the sons it makes the original sin that much worse.

See, I don't look at it primarily as a moral treatise, but as ancient sociology and a blueprint for how we operate as human beings, and from what I've seen the stories from which the mitzvot are derived are quite good predictive of human behavior, and that's what really caught me about The Torah and the old testament that is copied from it.

I've never discussed any of this with any rabbis as I have not really had access to a synagogue for the past few years, so I haven't had anyone I would trust with this stuff to bounce it off.

It all came to me through study and and yes, psychosis but even in that latter case, some of it stayed with me.

I've been endlessly fascinated with it since. I am not religious but I seriously considered converting.

I haven't for reasons which I won't get into on this forum. I'm trying to keep this about the texts and not about my personal feelings around faith and such but it's really hard to separate them in this arena.

I hope none of this offended anyone. I'm just being real with you, dear readers.

I probably could have a long and I would hope interesting discussion with you about (well at least me read of) The Torah and the old testament and this sort of tribalistic bent in scripture which i think can be extended to the idea of nation states but it wouldn't be something I'd really want to explore on this forum. Generational sin definitely enters into it and some of those prior agreements that were made are still burdening us.
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