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Well, I seemed to have caused quite a stir! Big Grin | :-D

It would appear I got a little too cute setting my clue. I will admit to the tenuocity (hey, if I'm going to set an improper clue I might as well use an improper word too) of the whale-cane connection. It seemed OK when I thought it up but upon reading the above I stand corrected. It seems I was assuming some equality property of synonyms (whale can mean beat, cane can mean beat, so obviously whale can mean cane - and vice versa Hmmm | :| ) Actually, to me, cane can mean to beat, but it implies a stick is involved, whereas whale has more of a Chuck Norris connotation.

I've read several articles on Ximenean crossword rules. I've read the rules, I understand the words in the rules but not always how to apply them. It's like telling my sister that addition is commutative. She'll accept that statement as true but has no idea what it means or how it's applied.

So, like today whale-cane: not Ximenean. Agreed. Too far apart in meaning making it an unfair clue. Yesterday's clue: politician-tory also not Ximenean. Not sure why. A Tory can be but not necessarily is a politician; a politician can be but not necessarily is a Tory. I started down my arcane clue path using a staff-cane connection. I've seen that used in clues a few times, once even here on CP I think. Is that Ximenean? Based on observation I'd say no. What would be?

Anyway, I'm not going to let fear of Ximenes stop me from trying. I do believe I'm failing better now. As Derek says, live and learn. Also, thanks for all the discussion, it will help me out in the future (maybe you too if and when I next set one Roll eyes | :rolleyes: ).

Eleven guys and a barcode standard. (8) Ximenean? Laugh | :laugh:
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