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Christian Graus wrote:
They did. It's visual C++. What you're suggesting is a whole lot of work to give us what we already have. Being able to write to a common intermediate language so that we can mix and match languages is more of an evolution than a revolution, but it's still a decent idea IMO. If you don't like it, don't use managed languages.

In fact, what I was suggesting was that you have the best of both worlds as an option, i.e., the ease of C# and the advantage of stand-alone executable.

In any case, the main problem with managed code is that its MSIL code is so transparent that everything (including some portions of code such as licensing of trial version, encryption keys, etc.) can easily be seen by utilities like ILDASM and Lutz Roeder's Reflector. This problem is not so much with VC++, but then it is a difficult language comparatively. For a small developer for shareware etc., it matters a lot, though it may not matter for a big developer like you with Microsoft MVP status. So, it is a question of combining ease with features (i.e., some features at least as an option).

One should look at sharewares. How many sharewares are written in C# inspite of its ease? You will hardly find many. This is so inspite of the fact that C# is now existing for last 4 to 5 years. So, is it not that something is holding back C# from certain fields at least? I think C# is more useful for intra-company utilities and the like. If you want to launch a utility to the outside world, then you should be ready for an open-source treat for your C# application.

Christian Graus wrote:
What on earth do you mean ? Are you saying that your issue is that MSIL can be decompiled ? In fact, it can, and that applies to Microsoft's .NET code also. How does that mean they should give away all their code ? Should Coke be forced to give us their recipe ? What's the difference ?

I Don't believe in Microsoft bashing. Let them keep their code secret. But, don't you think that MSIL is slightly over-transparent, it does not permit you to conceal even a few secrets such as some important logic like licensing etc. The question is not whether MSIL can be decompiled, but whether it reveals all secrets. If it reveals all secrets, then sometimes decompiling may not even be necessary.
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