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Console.Writeline() in Forms

8-Nov-05 14:23

engriri2006 wrote:
my dream is building chat room .

You need to be a bit more specific than this. For starters, what have you built already ? How long have you been using C# ? The web is full of people who install an Express Edition and set about creating their dream, but life does not work like this. You should have done a few smaller projects before you start this one, all of them designed to help you build knowledge of the language, and also the libraries that you will need to use to make this program happen.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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Allah On Acid8-Nov-05 16:18

Allah On Acid

8-Nov-05 16:18

You hit the nail on the head. I started out the same way a couple years ago, and was in for a lesson in reality.

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MrEyes8-Nov-05 12:31

MrEyes

8-Nov-05 12:31

I have an application that can be used via a GUI interface or command line arguments. If arguments are passed the GUI isnt displayed.

Now this all works fine, but I have one small problem that I cant fathom.

When running in "command line" mode I use Console.Writeline to output messages (e.g. errors). If I run the application via a command window with command line parameters the Writeline doesnt output anything at all. Although the code does execute successfully. I can only assume that the Writeline data is being directed somewhere else, not exactly sure where though.

Interestingly if I run it in debug through Visual Studio, the VS output window does show the messages.

Does anybody know whats going on here?

p.s. The project is compiled as a Windows Form, and the form has the Main function in it. Within Main I check for command line arguments if they exist the form is not initialised and the code diverts off into a command line process class.

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S. Senthil Kumar8-Nov-05 19:38

8-Nov-05 19:38

Did you build your application with /t:winexe (Windows Application in the New Project Dialog)? In that case, you won't get console output because immediately after launching the application, you'll go back to the command prompt.

Try changing it to console application and see if it works (Project Properties->Output Type)

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Senthil
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MrEyes8-Nov-05 23:29

MrEyes

8-Nov-05 23:29

Heres the thing, if I change the output type to console it does work

The problem with doing this is that if the app is launch in GUI mode, I get a rather ugly (and unnecessary) console window sat behind the windows form

post.mode = postmodes.signature;
SELECT everything FROM everywhere WHERE something = something_else;
> 1 Row Returned
> 42

S. Senthil Kumar9-Nov-05 21:40

9-Nov-05 21:40

MrEyes wrote:
I get a rather ugly (and unnecessary) console window sat behind the windows form

Where would you expect the console output to appear then?

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S. Senthil Kumar9-Nov-05 21:42

Creating Multiple Forms in my application

9-Nov-05 21:42

MrEyes wrote:
I get a rather ugly (and unnecessary) console window sat behind the windows form

I'm afraid you're stuck. My guess is Windows shows the console window depending on the type of the application (console/GUI), so either get a console window or none at all. I don't know if you can selectively writing to the console depending on command line parameters.

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kourvoisier8-Nov-05 12:06

8-Nov-05 12:06

Using Visual Studio C#

I am creating an instant messanger for LAN purposes only.

I would like to have multiple forms(windows) open at once for mulitple conversations with
different users.

But when i try an open one form using the form.showDialog() method it opens but it stops all execution until the form is closed. There for it wont let me open another form if a new connection comes in.
I have an additioal thread setup just to listen for new connections...execution stops here too!!!

Then i try and use form.Show() method and the forms loads to a blank screen and when i mouse over the form i get the hour glass symbol.

Must i use Multiple Document Interface to accomplish this or will i run into the same problems.
I also dont want the forms confined inside of a parent form....

This has to be possible didnt know it could be this difficult

Thanks in advance

Kouvoisier
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Christian Graus8-Nov-05 12:48

8-Nov-05 12:48

When you use Show, because the parent dialog doesn't stop and wait, the method that calls Show will continue to execute. As a result, you need to make the form you're going to show a member variable ( or if you want to create them dynamically, have a collection to hold them in as you create them ), so that a reference exists and the form is not garbage collected.

kourvoisier wrote:
and the forms loads to a blank screen and when i mouse over the form i get the hour glass symbol.

That's weird, there's a problem in your code causing this.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

kourvoisier8-Nov-05 15:12

8-Nov-05 15:12

Thanks for the response.

I am confused....

Christian Graus wrote:
because the parent dialog doesn't stop and wait

Parent dialog... could you elaborate what exactly you mean when you say parent dialog.

Christian Graus wrote:
you need to make the form you're going to show a member variable

I need to make the form im showing a member variable of the class that this is being created in?
is this what you mean?

Christian Graus wrote:
so that a reference exists and the form is not garbage collected.

I did create refrences i beleive.

ex. form1 derived from form class

form1 myform = new form1();
myform.Show()

- is myform the actual reference or just an instance of the form1 class
i may have my vocab wrong help me out on that if im wrong
-gives me blank form with hour glass icon when mouse over

hope all makes since

Kourvoisier

Christian Graus8-Nov-05 15:16

8-Nov-05 15:16

kourvoisier wrote:
could you elaborate what exactly you mean when you say parent dialog.

The class instance which is calling Show on an instance of another form.

kourvoisier wrote:
is this what you mean?

Yes

kourvoisier wrote:
form1 myform = new form1();
myform.Show()

Exactly what I'm talking about. Show does not stop execution. myForm is a local variable, so it will immediately go out of scope and be garbage collected. It needs to be a member variable.

kourvoisier wrote:
is myform the actual reference or just an instance of the form1 class

It's a reference with a very short lifespan

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

kourvoisier8-Nov-05 16:55

8-Nov-05 16:55

Ok
This is my basic setup in
class1.cs

public class1
{
Form1[] myForms; //member variable array of Forms

public class1() //class1 constructor
{
myForms = new Form1[50];
myForms[0] = new Form1();
}

class2.cs

public class2
{
static void Main()
{
class1 myClass = new class1();
myClass.myForms[0].Show();

}

}

Ok after i run that code i still get form loaded blank and hour glass when mouse over
I added the form as a member variable What else must i do? or what im a doing wrong.
I just want multiple forms thats all...

Run the code above you try it..... Help me out please

Thanks again Christian Graus

Kourvoisier

-- modified at 22:55 Tuesday 8th November, 2005

Christian Graus8-Nov-05 17:13

8-Nov-05 17:13

kourvoisier wrote:
class1 myClass = new class1();
myClass.myForms[0].Show();

You have the same problem. class1 is not a member variable. Why have you done it this way, with an extra class ?

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

kourvoisier8-Nov-05 17:21

8-Nov-05 17:21

Ok....
Actually it is setup this way anyway

public class1
{

Form1[] myForms; //member variable array of Forms

public class1() //class1 constructor
{
myForms = new Form1[50];
myForms[0] = new Form1();

static void Main()
{
class1 myClass = new class1();
myClass.myForms[0].Show();

}

}

Still get blank form with hour glass

Am i doing something wrong

Kourvoisier

Christian Graus8-Nov-05 17:35

8-Nov-05 17:35

class Main : Form
{

private Form1 myForm;

Main()
{
myForm = new Form1();
myForm.Show();
}
}

Now when main us constructed, a member variable is initialised and shown.

kourvoisier wrote:
Am i doing something wrong

I reiterate: your instance of class1 is local to a method, which means it has no persistent lifespan. You have a collection of forms as a member variable inside a class, but you've not made the instance of that class a member.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

kourvoisier8-Nov-05 19:18

8-Nov-05 19:18

Sorry sir

but your code above also gives the same exact blank screen with hour glass mouse over
maybe u should compile and run and see what i mean.

Christian Graus wrote:

class Main : Form
{

private Form1 myForm;

Main()
{
myForm = new Form1();
myForm.Show();
}
}

Now when main us constructed, a member variable is initialised and shown.

I really am trying to understand your concept and whats going on.
here you have created a class called main which implements form -- (dont know why it implements form)

You then create a member variable 'myForm' in the main class which is an instance of the Form1 class which is not shown(this class is the actual form i assume because this is what i meant in my code in earlier post)

Then u created the main class constructor which initializes myForm member variable then u call the
show method which should run the form.

Christian Graus wrote:
Now when main us constructed, a member variable is initialised and shown.

Now where would you call the constructor for the main class to initialize and show the form which is the member variable.

Christian Graus wrote:
I reiterate: your instance of class1 is local to a method, which means it has no persistent lifespan. You have a collection of forms as a member variable inside a class, but you've not made the instance of that class a member.

How do i make the instance of the class a member...i get confused here
(could you send me a visual c# solution source code to show me exactly how u do this
maybe if see the code of all this your saying in action i may be able to understand it better)

if you do this i would highly appreciate it

you can zip it and email to for_now_us@yahoo.com

Christian Graus9-Nov-05 10:18

9-Nov-05 10:18

kourvoisier wrote:
but your code above also gives the same exact blank screen with hour glass mouse over

Yes, I always said that while your code was plain wrong, it was also true that the result I'd expect would not be the hour glass you're seeing.

kourvoisier wrote:
I really am trying to understand your concept and whats going on.
here you have created a class called main which implements form -- (dont know why it implements form)

Here's the core issue. As someone else said, you need a message pump. The first step is to create a windows forms app, and then when you've got your main form class, you can create other forms off it, because you have a message pump going already.

kourvoisier wrote:
How do i make the instance of the class a member...i get confused here

It's a member if it's declared in the class and not in the method, as in my examples.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

S. Senthil Kumar8-Nov-05 20:01

8-Nov-05 20:01

kourvoisier wrote:
static void Main()
{
class1 myClass = new class1();
myClass.myForms[0].Show();

}

That is what is creating the problem. For a Windows application to run properly, it needs a message pump to process messages from the operating system. For the .NET API, Application.Run[^] does the message looping. In your program, you don't have a message loop and that is what is causing the problem. This code will help you get rid of the problem.

class1 myClass = new class1();
myClass.myForms[0].Show();
Application.Run();

However, it now becomes your responsibility to handle termination of the application. Application.Run will continue processing messages even if you've closed all the forms. Ideally, you'd have one main form, and from within that, launch other forms

static void Main()
{
   Application.Run(new MyMainForm());
}

class MyMainForm()
{
   private void MyMainForm_Load()
   {
      myClass.myForms[0].Show();
   }
}

This way, when MyMainForm is closed, the application shuts down cleanly.

Either way, remember that all the forms share the same message loop, so if one of them is busy processing something, all the other forms will also appear to be hung.

To learn more about message pumps, you might want to read this[^] article.

Regards
Senthil
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kourvoisier9-Nov-05 12:16

9-Nov-05 12:16

now i get it.....

thanks for the explanation makes perfect since to me....
especially the article...well put.

I will revise and run my code again i will let you guys know the results

You all have been of great help!!!!

Kourvoisier

kourvoisier9-Nov-05 17:36