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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
but I have explained my reasons for smiling in my reply to Neil Van Note
The smiles where not the reason I thought you sounded insulting. It was the fact they
are surrounding what you said, I quote...
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote:
Yeah, When he got the 0, he thought it was an error
Either way, I am dropping it...
Regards
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Neil Van Note wrote:
Either way, I am dropping it...
Thanks
Nish
Regards,
Nish
Native CPian.
Born and brought up on CP.
With the CP blood in him.
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Hi all,
I'm starting learning C# and I would apreciate very much if you, C# gurus, can tell me the name of the best books available on this topic. I do have MSDN .NET but I would like also to have some books.
TIA
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The second edition of my Inside C# book is now out and receiving extremely complimentary reviews. There are also a few people here on the site that have personally used the book and can attest to its helpfullness.
Cheers,
Tom Archer
Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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For learning C# itself I recommend Tom's Inside C#. I've only read the 1st edition, but the 2nd edition almost doubles the page count.
Having not read the 2nd edition I don't know what it covers that was missing in 1st edition; but you'll probably want another book to cover the .NET class libraries and how to use them.
For Windows Forms, Charles Petzold's Programming Windows with C# seems to be the book for that.
James
Simplicity Rules!
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"... you'll probably want another book to cover the .NET class libraries and how to use them."
Any book name for learning about .NET class lbraries and how to use them ?
Thank you very much,
Thomas
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The only one I have is Charles Petzold's book, but that focuses on Windows Forms.
The second edition of Inside C# covers a bit more; but I don't see the table of contents on Amazon so I'm not sure what the new material is. Without being able to see a table of contents for the other books I can't be sure what is in them, but it look like Jeffery Richter's Applied Microsoft .NET Framework Programming.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
James
Simplicity Rules!
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I definitely don't cover Windows Forms as that's way outside the scope of Inside C#. I do cover some .NET classes, but those that I feel most programmers would logically associate with a language (regardless of where they're actually supported in .NET). The classes in include things like file streaming, strings, reg expressions, and security.
By the way here is the table of contents.
Cheers,
Tom Archer
Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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Table of contents of Inside C#
Disclaimer : The author of the book is a friendy guy and if you ask directly to him any doubt , I sure he will be answering you.
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
Addicted C++ programmer
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*grin* Thanks  Don't know why I didn't think to go to Microsoft Press' website.
James
Simplicity Rules!
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Don't worry man, it can happen to the best C# MVCPP (Most Value Code Project Profissional ) , don't you think ? 
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
Addicted C++ programmer
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Joao Vaz wrote:
it can happen to the best C# MVCPP
Yeah, but what about me?  [By the way, thanks  ]
Actually I do know the problem, its me visiting and trying to make intellectual posts when I'm dead tired. In fact, I should probably give up nowk and go to bed z z.
James
Simplicity Rules!
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Your welcome , but I only said the truth (all the truth and nothing more than the truth), so you don't need to thank me .
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
Addicted C++ programmer
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Jeff Prosise's book is for that. In fact, at MS Press we tried very hard to make sure that the entire line up (Richter, Prosise, Petzold and mine) all complimented one another with a miniumum of overlap.
Therefore:
- Jeffrey Richter - .NET programming (mainly low level with lots of internals)
- Jeff Prosise - Programming with the .NET class library
- Tom Archer - Specific to C# with a few basic .NET classes (file streaming, strings, regular expressions, security, exception handling, etc.)
- Charles Petzold - WinForms and UI
Cheers,
Tom Archer
Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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Here's the Amazon Review of the 2nd edition:
I thoroughly enjoyed the first edition, but as another reviewer stated, it was a one-time read where you could easily absorb everything in one sitting and not have much need for it again. This edition simply rocks. I don't know if it was Mr Archer learning more about the language or adding Mr Whitechapel. What I do know is that this book as some incredible content.
Where do I begin? The chapters on attributes, delegates and interfaces are excellent. Finally, someone that explains what these are, why they exist, how to use them and how they work internally! From there, my favorite chapters are the ones on file streams, strings and regular expressions and security...
Finally, the COM interop chapters are the best I've read any place. This has become *the* definitive book on C#. A definite recommended buy!
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I advise you to buy this one , and complement with Petzold Programming Windows with C# . These 2 definitely are a great pair ...
The inside C# leads properly with the language and it's internals and some complementary .Net Framework stuff and Programming Windows leads with Windows Forms , GDI + , Graphical user interfaces ... you get the point ...
For Asp.NET , I personnally don't know any good introductory book, but if you want a intermediate/Advanced level book then definitely you should go to ASP.NET Unleashed.
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
Addicted C++ programmer
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Joao Vaz wrote:
I advise you to buy this one , and complement with Petzold Programming Windows with C# . These 2 definitely are a great pair ...
I definitely like the idea that Amazon thinks enough of my book's potential to couple with Charles Petzold's book - especially since they work great together.
Cheers,
Tom Archer
Author - Inside C#, Visual C++.NET Bible
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Tom Archer wrote:
Amazon thinks enough of my book's potential to couple with Charles Petzold's book
Yeah, Amazon despict some minor issues on his search engine , have some intelligent guys backing it up
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
Addicted C++ programmer
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The MS-Press books listed are, I think, essential titles for any .Net dev.
The 4 MS-Press publications listed previously are pretty good (well I anticipate that Prosise's title will be as well written).
I also look forward to getting my copy of the 2nd edition of Tom's book and also Jeff Prosise's book when its published (this month?).
I am however disappointed with the Developmentor .Net/C# efforts compared with their previous Win32/COM publications. I don't bother using them any more to be honest. That said though, the upcoming Don Box title from them "Essential .NET" looks promising (drafts were available at last years PDC) but has been delayed until September which is a shame.
The Wrox press titles are also disappointing and try to cover far too much - Professional C# meanders all over the place.
Kev
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kek wrote:
The Wrox press titles are also disappointing and try to cover far too much - Professional C# meanders all over the place.
I know what you mean, I bought Beginning Asp.NET and it have TEN chapters about C# basics !!! 
But I bought ASP.NET Unleashed from SAMS and it only have a tiny chapter to the basics of ASP.NET , then is all real content , the book have 1300 pags!!!!  Great stuff !
kek wrote:
Developmentor .Net/C# efforts compared with their previous Win32/COM publications
Yeap , their Win32/COM publications rocked , but I believe that they will increase the quality in upcoming books, I have faith in the guys !!!
Regarding Essential .NET, I'm afraid by the time , it hit the shelfs , it will not bring additional content to the hundreds of books published !!! Although Don Box is a great author(Essential COM was a masterpiece) , I think that he will have poor sales .
I already have the Mspress Guys Tom Archer(Inside C#,2nd), Serge Lidin(Inside Il Net Assembler), Petzold(Programming Windows with C#) ,Prosise (Programming .Net ...) , Ritcher (Applied Net...) , Dino Esposito (Ado.NET) , Stephen W ...(ASP.NET Unleashed) ,John Gough (Compiling For .NET) and many others !!! How he can bring additional content ???? I think is almost impossible to achieve this !!!
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Anonymous wrote:
Although Don Box is a great author(Essential COM was a masterpiece) , I think that he will have poor sales .
I think people learning .NET coming from the COM world will pick up Box's book to because its Don Box. Hell, I'm not from the COM world and I'm tempted to get it when it comes out
James
Simplicity Rules!
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Inside C#, 2nd Edition
Even Amazon recommends and are selling the Inside C# and Programming Windows with C# together at a lower price, so you can't go wrong
Cheers,
Joao Vaz
Addicted C++ programmer
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Depends on what you're trying to do.
If you're interested in the just the language, Tom's book or my book from Apress.
If you're interested in fewer details about the language but more about the frameworks, I think Troelson's Apress book or Liberty's O'Reilly book are good.
You might also look on http://www.dotnetbooks.com for some more info.
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Is there a reason why when accessing the TreeNode.Text property is slows down the redraw of a treeview and it doesn't even take in consideration the BeginUpdate/EndUpdate of the TreeView???
In this example if you comment out the "NewNode.Text" line the
BeginUpdate/EndUpdate will work fine
TreeNode NewNode;
treeView.BeginUpdate();
for( int i = 0; i < 1000; i++ )
{
NewNode = treeView.Nodes.Add( "Node: " + i.ToString() );
NewNode.Text = "Node: " + i.ToString();
Application.DoEvents();
}
treeView.EndUpdate();
And in this example if you comment ou the "NewNode.Text" line the tree view will repaint alot faster.
TreeNode NewNode;
for( int i = 0; i < 1000; i++ )
{
NewNode = treeView.Nodes.Add( "Node: " + i.ToString() );
NewNode.Text = "Node: " + i.ToString();
Application.DoEvents();
}
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Serge R wrote:
Is there a reason why when accessing the TreeNode.Text property is slows down the redraw of a treeview and it doesn't even take in consideration the BeginUpdate/EndUpdate of the TreeView???
In this example if you comment out the "NewNode.Text" line the
BeginUpdate/EndUpdate will work fine
 I'm not sure what you are trying to do; the point of BeginUpdate/EndUpdate is to not-redraw the treeview while populating nodes making it faster because you won't redraw after each addition/removal. When you put in the Application.DoEvents() and by setting the text value you are telling it to redraw.
Nearest I can tell that is the culprit.
James
Simplicity Rules!
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