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Inspired by Bassam's question below:
If you could pick anything, what would you like to see on a "CP overview" page?
Personally, i'm interested in seeing:
- new / updated articles
- popular articles
- forum watches
- current poll + poll results
- site search
Most of these are currently on the main page, along with a lot of other stuff i never use (ads, articles menu, news, etc...)
Thoughts?
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Shog9 wrote: a lot of other stuff i never use (ads, articles menu, news, etc...)
We probably can't remove those. I doubt we'd make Chris happy. 
My CP Overview page would look exactly like yours. I'd probably expand the forum watches for that page to the last 10 threads, though. I'd have a short summary of the first post underneath the title (first 100 characters?) A count of how many messages posted in each thread since my last visit, etc. (Some of those are plans I have for the current forum watch code...)
I'd bump the poll up near the top of the page, since I'd like to give it a bit more visibility. I'd make the article categories I watch a little bit more fine-grained.
I'd get rid of the product showcase, since I don't care. Or at least move it down the page a lot, so I don't have to care.
etc. etc. etc.
We are certainly uncertain
at least I'm pretty sure I am...
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David Stone wrote: We probably can't remove those. I doubt we'd make Chris happy.
Probably not. And FWIW, i don't block ads on CP (except for flash ads, which i block everywhere) - but i don't really see them either. It's as though i've developed blind spots. Personally, i'd just as soon have one ad per page, "pinned" next to a HUD of sorts (recent articles, threads, maybe search...)
Eh, we'll see...
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Shog9 wrote: Eh, we'll see...
Yeah...besides, it'll all change in a month or so anyway, right? 
We should probably work on abstracting a framework for dealing with Posts, Replies, Forums, Users, etc. It would be useful to have Real Soon Now.
We are certainly uncertain
at least I'm pretty sure I am...
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David Stone wrote: We should probably work on abstracting a framework for dealing with Posts, Replies, Forums, Users, etc.
Yes. 
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Can you do views? How about a new thread view? One that only shows the new posts in trees.
For example, if message is new, keep it and all its children.
If message is old, hide up to node that has new child post.
Old
--> Old (Hide)
--> Old (Hide because of parent)
--> Old (Show because of child)
--> Old (Hide)
--> Old (Hide because of parent)
--> New (Show)
--> New (Show)
--> New (Show because of parent)
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Instead of doing forum watches the way you have them, how about a tabbed preview like the lounge has for each thread type, if you're worried about real estate?
"People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them." - Anonymous
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Instead of doing forum watches the way you have them, how about a tabbed preview like the lounge has for each thread type, if you're worried about real estate?
That really only makes sense for The Lounge (and, maybe, The Soapbox). Most other forums pretty much stick to a single type of message (for thread heads anyway).
Now, it would be nice to have an "unanswered questions" ForumWatch...
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Shog9 wrote: That really only makes sense for The Lounge (and, maybe, The Soapbox). Most other forums pretty much stick to a single type of message (for thread heads anyway).
No, no, no, what I meant was using a tabbed display for the watch forums so that you won't have too many windows on the right hand side, just one with tabs. Then again, it may not look good either.
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We could make it an accordion kind of thing...hmmmm...
We are certainly uncertain
at least I'm pretty sure I am...
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Ooooh! I like that. Zippedy doo dah, zippedy deh.
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Post-it notes, so that I can remind myself to get back to work...
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(\ /)
>----(O.o)---->
(><)
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Mwaaahaahahahaha.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote: Post-it notes
You mean, Post-IT notes?
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote: (\ /)
>----(O.o)---->
(><)
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Wasn't going to ask elsewhere, but is this a rabbit or a woman?
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Wasn't going to ask elsewhere, but is this a rabbit or a woman?
It's a bunny. My brother has this e-mail signature:
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(\_/) This is bunny. Please help bunny to
(O.o) world domination by making him
(")(") your signature!
We are certainly uncertain
at least I'm pretty sure I am...
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Yours looks more like a gremlin. Magwai.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Yours looks more like a gremlin. Magwai.
Heh. Love Gizmo. 
We are certainly uncertain
at least I'm pretty sure I am...
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"Yes", and "I think so" (I just stole it from some girl in one of those chat communities and SHOT IT! MWahahahaa)
I need a mini-me.
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Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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I like the latest post in the CPHog profile. Any chance you can add it as a watch forum? Also, any chance you can add the watch forums to the main CP page? Once in CP, I had to click on Lounge before I could visit CPHog which is annoying.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: I like the latest post in the CPHog profile.
I actually just threw that in for kicks... see if you can figure out what the real new feature is... 
(hint: find a user who has recently changed their nick...)
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Any chance you can add it as a watch forum?
What, something that always displays a user's last five posts? Yeah, that'd be do-able. You could enter a ticket... 
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Also, any chance you can add the watch forums to the main CP page?
Where would you display them? The main page is pretty crowded already - anything added to the right column is just gonna push the existing boxes further down...
...actually, that brings up a more interesting question: if you could pick anything, what would you like to see on a "CP overview" page?
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Shog9 wrote: (hint: find a user who has recently changed their nick...)
Help me help you. Why don't you just tell me the name of a user who changed his nick?
Shog9 wrote: if you could pick anything, what would you like to see on a "CP overview" page?
Well, duh, the CPHog forum page. 
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Shog9 wrote: see if you can figure out what the real new feature is...
Aha, or actually, Aka.
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Yup.
It's hardly perfect, since it'll only look at the last 50 posts by a user to determine what other names they've been using... and of course, it does nothing about users who just create new accounts. But it is handy when you see an unfamiliar name and are wondering if it's someone you'd normally recognize...
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Can't you just get the IP address from the database of each user and query against all names using that IP? What if the users changed names more than once, do you list all?
P.S. - The latest post in the Math forum tipped me off.
"There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals." - Bassam Abdul-Baki
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Can't you just get the IP address from the database of each user and query against all names using that IP?
Well, i don't exactly have unfettered access to that database. But even if i did, that'd fall apart as soon as someone posted from a shared IP address.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: What if the users changed names more than once, do you list all?
Yup. If you see a post by "Nathan A.", then bring up his bio - something like six different names across the last fifty posts.
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It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.
--Raymond Chen on MSDN
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: Can't you just get the IP address from the database of each user
We actually don't get any information from the DB. CPhog just pulls DOM manipulation tricks and XMLHttpRequest magic against the same exact CP pages you get.
We are certainly uncertain
at least I'm pretty sure I am...
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