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I was stunned and amazed that my latest PC has no COM ports! I had to buy a USB-to-COM device.
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As someone who has spent much of my life tracing faults in rs232 connectors, I won't be sad to see them go.
That said, there are still a lot of devices out there which require them.
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Because they "just work", as opposed to those USB KB/Mice combos which will/will not work, depending on brand, type and whatnot. And then, they use two USB ports, which are rare by design.
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You obviously have never had to make a null modem adapter at 2:30 a.m. at a customer site because the fracking morons told you the wrong set of signals that they used for flow control.
RS-232 was a PITA. May it rot in its grave.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I believe the MS hardware spec of the year 2000 said that the COM ports should be removed and replaced with USB ports. It has taken 7 years to implement that...
John
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They don't have my permission to do that. I thought they were all about backward-compatibility.
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Good point. Serial ports started to get hard to find on laptops (as are parallel ports) some time ago.
When you work with embedded devices, serial ports are almost a required item. There are a lot of devices in the field that communicate via 232 or 485. In addition, a lot of inexpensive tools (e.g. Atmel's in-circuit programmer) require a serial port.
USB/RS232 adapters can be squirrely (especially if using a laptop with power management enabled).
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When I buy a new comp I look for company that installs the least amount of garbage. All I want is the hardware and an OS, nothing else; I have a hard enough time keeping junk off my PC.
I have no idea what's going on...
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ummoops wrote: least amount of garbage
Or you are trying to tell it very diplomatically? About a good per centage of the disk is just gobbled up by junk games, sh*t antivirus and other things, which just needs to be cleaned at the earliest before our customization for our system's good performance.
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least amount of garbage
- You are trying to tell it very diplomatically?
Well said. Some companies don't install any crap; just the OS and the minimal drivers to run the hardware.
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I tend to agree. The last thing I need is a bunch of advertising popping up every time I start it up. I already have an ISP etc… and do not want most of this garbage preinstalled. If I need any of that stuff, I know where to find it.
INTP
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra
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That's why I ask my dealer to just give me the plain OS CD. I'll set up everything from scratch by myself - no worries about preinstalled junk. I hate getting those recovery CD's, you can't even use when you have a problem that requires reinstalling/fixing a single part of the installation.
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Pater wrote: That's why I ask my dealer to just give me the plain OS CD
I usually get that or the lowest OS option and nuke the hard drive when I get it, installing my own stuff my way.
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Yep, wipe the drive first thing.
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It would be nice if MS would only provide an OS not a bunch of stuff I will never want or use.
djj
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Its very frustrating getting this crap as a business customer as then I have to spend hours of my time removing it.
John
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As a business user set up an image of your base configuration - every 12-18 months and burn it on.
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For every survey I see more or less some "CListCtrl" in the custom written choices, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?
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A while back I asked the same question in a survey.
It seems it's an old story here in CP:
"Once upon a time, some one became a member and logged in to the CodeProject.com seeking an article about CListCtrl. He/She managed to search the web site, found a box on first page, put CListCtrl in it and hit Enter. Poor guy didn't notice the box is 'Other' option of the survey. That became a famous joke and after that some (funny)guys tried to keep that event alive. That's why we see CListCtrl every week, To remember it and have fun every week. "
// "Life is very short and is very fragile also." Yanni while (I'm_alive) { cout<<"I love programming."; }
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I'll join them
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guess you've never ordered a computer from dell eh?
there's been a CListCtrl customization option with dells for a while... I always get my super mega ultra 1337 h4x0R computers with CListCtrl's. makes a better gaming rig!
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that is because if CListCtrl does not work on the new desktop then it is pretty much useless.
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My room gets unpleasently hot during the summer, the last thing I need is a space heater
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ed welch wrote: My room gets unpleasently hot during the summer, the last thing I need is a space heater
Doesn't it sound paradoxical?
When it is hot, you are expecting for more heat?
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: the last thing I need is a space heater
thats L A S T
as in, of all the things he needs, that would be the last on the list.
or, more to the point, not the kind of thing he wants
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