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Could you elaborate on how to do so? When I try to add a form, it wants to add support for CLR, which means .NET framework, if I'm not mistaken..
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Ah! It's called a dialog here. I've added a Dialog and can design willy nilly. Sweet.
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You have two options with MFC. You can create a dialog based application or a SDI/MDI application using CFormView.
A dialog based application generally does not have a menu or toolbar. What you get is a dialog box (WinForm in the .Net world), that you can drag and drop your controls into and then write the code behind it to do what you want.
If you want menus and toolbar, then I would go with either an MDI or SDI application. This is more like windows notepad and Visual Studio. Visual Studio is an MDI (multi-document application) and SDI is like notepade (single document interface).
When creating a SDI/MDI applicaiton, the last page of the application wizard lets you choose what type of view you want. If you want to be able to display some control, like buttons, lables, edit control...., you would want to change the view class from CView to CFormView.
Let me also add that jumping into something like this without doing some homework could turnout to be somewhat overwhelming.
Good luck,
AliR.
Visual C++ MVP
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Overwhelming indeed. I've decided to forget the GUI for now until I get my C++ logic and syntax down. So far I've successfully made a custom class that performs a WMI query to some info I need. I'm now working on figuring out some datatyping issues I'm running into that I never ran into in C#.
Thanks for the advice, I'll certainly put it to use when I get to adding a GUI.
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alanteigne wrote: How should I go about creating a Form based GUI app for my circumstances?
You can't.
Its that simple. Forms are .NET. Period.
To create an unmanaged GUI, you need a different Framework than Windows Forms.
MFC was mentioned, WTL is also an option.
Also, you could try using other frameworks:
wxWidgets[^]
Qt[^]
come to mind.
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As others said MFC, QT, etc are common... if your application is really trivial (maybe one dialog and a few interactive controls) you can also do plain Win32. The advantage is that you don't have to learn a whole framework like MFC and get really slim code... search for "win32 tutorial".
Hope it helps.
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Hello all. I have this application that was built with VC6. Now I am migrating it to VC8, and as it compiled perfectly, it is not running. It is a dialog-based app, but when I call CDialog's DoModal, it fails miserably (returns -1) without even calling OnInitDialog.
Now, I already checked for the resources and they all seem to be alright. Any reason why it is failing, any clue?
Thanks in advance.
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So I finally managed to set up the (remote) debug environment. It is failing while calling CreateDlgIndirect.
I'm calling GetLastError and it is returning error 1408, whose translation would be something like: "invalid window, it belongs to another subprocess". What the...? 
[/EDIT]
Regards,
FG.
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modified on Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:15 PM
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: ...it fails miserably
Which means what?
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: ...without even calling OnInitDialog
How are you verifying this?
Does it work if you add the DS_NOFAILCREATE style to the dialog template?
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Nope, it is still failing... 
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And what about the debugger?
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What about stepping into DoModal() in the debugger to see why it's failing? 
Mark
Mark Salsbery
Microsoft MVP - Visual C++
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Hehe, yes, I'm trying that, but I don't have yet the environment setup in my machine (the app needs several components to work) thus I could only debug it in a remote way; still, at the time, I don't have access to the server and I can update the program only with a ridiculous tool which uploads it via FTP...
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: I don't have yet the environment setup in my machine (the app needs several components to work) thus I could only debug it in a remote way
 I'd work on that part ... debugging-by-guessing sucks hehe.
Mark
Mark Salsbery
Microsoft MVP - Visual C++
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It's failing while calling CreateDlgIndirect, it seems it's throwing an exception. I'll post more details as I get them.
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It would not happen to be using a Rich Edit control in the dialog, or an ActiveX control, would it? The dialog aborts if any of its controls fails to create.
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That's what I was hoping to uncover. Based on his response, I'm guessing that's not the problem.
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"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Nope, no rich edit or ActiveX, only common controls. I was wondering, could it be that the server had different versions of the MFC dll? Mmm... I'll try linking statically to see what happens...
Regards,
FG.
Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela
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Have you tried to set a break point in DoDataExchange to see if it reaches that method, and if it break in there?
AliR.
Visual C++ MVP
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Yep, but it doesn't. Not even the OnInitDialog method.
I'm setting up the debugging environment to see where exactly is failing. Man, this will be one of those nights... 
Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela
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What is the difference between Visual C++ 2008 free download version and Visual C++ 2008 paid version?
What is the price of the paid version? How to get the paid version?
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Anthony Appleyard wrote: What is the difference between Visual C++ 2008 free download version and Visual C++ 2008 paid version?
One difference is the lack of MFC (and maybe ATL).
I think the price for MSDN Pro is $1,199.
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"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Stephen Lowe wrote: but there is STL support.
Since STL is the C++ Standard Library that's quite natural.
Another Visual C++ Expression Edition missing feature is the resource editor.
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I did notice that for the 2008 express edition they are emphasizing building of native win32 apps.
I recall using the 2005 express edition and it was really annoying as they basically set it up to, by default, disable native app projects, and you had to go through all these steps to re-enable them. As though everyone wants to have .NET force fed to them...
I think they must have gotten a lot of negative feedback or something, because if you go to the 2008 express download page, it specifically highlights native app creation
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