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Much sympathy - obviously the admin is useless and feels threatened. Hope you find a new position soon!
'Howard
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What a start! Too bad, that sounds like some crap. When I apply for a job next time I will ask to see samples of their code. Or at least ask them about their coding standards etc.
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I would work for free for a week just so I could find out whats the real deal is. It would be worth the vacation time just to find out all the politics.
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I woulda quit on the spot.
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While quitting on the spot does sound appropriate many have obligations to family/creditors that don't allow that luxury. Still, I would move on as soon as reasonably possible.
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I suppose. I have kids and creditors and the possibility would arise very quickly.
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The admin sounds like he has issue, coming in and screaming like that. Geeze.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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a friend of mine - many years ago - was asked to port a physics simulation program from one platform to another. The software performed beautifully, was efficient, and had won awards for educational excellence etc.
the source code was several thousand lines of assembly, which was large but not too large for that platform and era.
The program had two comments in it, one word each. They were not helpful.
The variable naming convention was even more interesting. It seems the original author [a physicist/mathematician, in all fairness] treated variable names like a Pez dispenser. The first variable in the program was named "A", the second was named "B", and so on. When he got to Z he started over with A1, then B1, etc.
The program had a lot of variables, I think the last variable was named BB21.
Porting the application was not too difficult, as the two platforms had very similar instruction sets. Debugging it, on the other hand, was an exercise in insanity!
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Steven A. Lowe wrote: The first variable in the program was named "A", the second was named "B", and so on. When he got to Z he started over with A1, then B1, etc.
Steven A. Lowe wrote: I think the last variable was named BB21.
Impossible: no physicist/mathematician will conclude such a series with BB21.
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I spent too much time dealing with numerical modelling suites written in FORTRAN written exactly the same way. Thousands and thousands of lines, and all the variables "x", "xx", "xxx" etc.
Comments? We're physicists, not literary majors. We don't need no stinkin' comments. The code is obvious anyway...
 
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Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Comments? We're physicists, not literary majors. We don't need no stinkin' comments. The code is obvious anyway...
... 30 minutes of pensive pacing. As I said, it's obvious. 
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Chris Maunder wrote: numerical modelling suites written in FORTRAN written exactly the same way. Thousands and thousands of lines, and all the variables "x", "xx", "xxx" etc.
Ah yes, I do recall my grandfather's Fortran IV book being loaded with this kind of stuff 
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Actually, once the application is run through an obfuscator tool, the output code would be like this. Isn't it?
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: the output code would be like this. Isn't it?
Depends. I did give the Skater obfuscator a try, and it has the ability to create non-printable member/method names. It does crash a certain useful tool when obfuscated in such a manner.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Amazing! His friend has a mind like an obfuscator.
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When dealing with punch cards, short variable names are a blessing.
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so is a lighter
(this program definitely did not originate on punch cards, it was on an Apple ][e!)
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Steven A. Lowe wrote: so is a lighter
Punch cards are great for the fireplace on cold winter nights
About your reference to the Apple ][e, I remember my old Commodore 64 and 128 were limited to only the first characters counting in the variable name.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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hmmm...i don't remember that being a limit of the macro-assembler, but then again i don't remember a lot of things from way back then
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I don't recall what the limit was in the macro assembler, but in Commodore Basic it was only the first two characters counting.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Well, here we have one big difference between interpreters and assemblers / compilers.
An interpreter, like the good old BASIC, must hold the source in RAM, as well as every variable in use. On my old machine, it had only 4k for the interpreter AND the program AND the variables, it was the same: Better live with short variables and without comments than getting an out of memory error before the program is complete.
In assembly programs or with a compiler this is no problem. Comments and variable names only make the source file longer, but both don't make it into the executable.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'.
I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
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CDP1802 wrote: we have one big difference between interpreters and assemblers / compilers.
Oh yes, that was my first lesson in the difference between compilers and interpreters. Writing a program in the old Commodore Basic, then write the equivalent - sometimes by hand - in assembly, and what a bit of difference that was
I did get my first Intel based machine as a high school graduation present, in 1991, an Intel 80386-DX25mhz box. I had qbasic and Microsoft Quick Basic 4.5 both installed on the machine. Bit of a performance difference between those two, back then.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
"Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham
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Well, I guess I tossed myself into the cold water. It was 1978, I was 12 years old and, as always, had a little difference of opinion with my parents. So I spent the day out of harm's way at a local mall. There was a little Radio Shack where they had just unpacked a TRS-80 Model I. They made the mistake to leave that that thing unattended and so they had me as a guest all day, trying to figure out what you can do with a computer.
And when I finally got home, my poor parents were surprised to learn that the previous issues were totally irrelevant and that getting a computer was now the highest priority
Their answer was a simple 'no', but I kept harassing them until they got me a kit for 100$. It was an Elf II with tremendous 256 bytes RAM, a hex keypad and a video resolution of 64 x 32 pixels (monochrome). So it was no neat but slow BASIC for me, it was entering machine code with the hexpad. And my parents soon got longer lists of desperately required hardware.
A while ago he asked me what he should have printed on my business cards. I said 'Wizard'.
I read books which nobody else understand. Then I do something which nobody understands. After that the computer does something which nobody understands. When asked, I say things about the results which nobody understand. But everybody expects miracles from me on a regular basis. Looks to me like the classical definition of a wizard.
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I first learned programming in BASIC-Plus on a PDP-11. Unless you issued the EXTEND command, variable names were limited to one character and perhaps one digit. (Well there could also be a % or $ too.)
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