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Re: Ethically, the client and the result/objective driven process [modified] Thomas Weller23-Mar-09 9:51 Thomas Weller 23-Mar-09 9:51  Clients really are the most important people in a certain sense. But they usually don't have any influence on the internal workings of a company - and they shouldn't. So I think you are confusing the decision making process of a company with its culture (which has to be indeed client-centric)... ## edited a typo ### Regards Thomas www.thomas-weller.de Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. Programmer - an organism that turns coffee into software. modified on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:20 AM Clients Madhu Kampurath22-Mar-09 20:50 Madhu Kampurath 22-Mar-09 20:50  I think, this should be an option. Re: Clients AlexCode22-Mar-09 23:51 AlexCode 22-Mar-09 23:51  Nice one!!! Here we have a mix... the CEO and customers Either when the customers demand or the CEO wants it done... it happens! Re: Clients Palavos23-Mar-09 2:11 Palavos 23-Mar-09 2:11  More than correct! Per ardua ad astra, per ignem vincimus! http://www.kakos.com.gr[^] Re: Clients Vasudevan Deepak Kumar23-Mar-09 2:40 Vasudevan Deepak Kumar 23-Mar-09 2:40  Absolutely; beyond any doubts. Because they are the ones who ultimately sign our paychecks. Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep! Re: Clients [modified] Indivara23-Mar-09 2:46 Indivara 23-Mar-09 2:46  Yes, but doesn't "in your company" mean those who are employed by or are part of the company? If you include clients, then you'll also have to include other external factors like the government, [edit] shareholders, as posted above [/edit], etc... Last modified: 2hrs 41mins after originally posted -- Re: Clients Yusuf23-Mar-09 5:55 Yusuf 23-Mar-09 5:55  absolutly. - There are times/cases I call the shots - There are times/cases my boss (the owner) calls the shots - There are times the customers call the shots At times all of the above. Yusuf Oh didn't you notice, analogous to square roots, they recently introduced rectangular, circular, and diamond roots to determine the size of the corresponding shapes when given the area. Luc Pattyn[^] Re: Clients Chris Maunder23-Mar-09 7:10 Chris Maunder 23-Mar-09 7:10  Clients are the reason many business exist, but the question is about who in the company has the most influence (regardless of the external influences on they themselves) cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: Clients Thomas Weller23-Mar-09 9:28 Thomas Weller 23-Mar-09 9:28  I absolutely agree with you that software should be made for the client - this should go without saying, but unfortunately this is all too often not the case (If the software doesn't work, then simply the customer is not smart enough. ). But usually they are not involved in the operations of the company, they are driving it. They may complain, they may ask for some additional features, they say what they need and/or want, but they are not making business or - even worse - technical decisions. Thank god... Regards Thomas www.thomas-weller.de Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. Programmer - an organism that turns coffee into software.

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