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Do you think the homework cheaters would actually bother to use it?  Or should be be able to flag it after the fact?
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Users won't very probably use it, but people that can "Improve" could do it (saving time for other users).
Regards.
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If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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That would be neat if other users could tag questions as "homework question" and so on, then we could use the custom view to filter out questions with those tags. Perhaps only allow silver members and above to use certain tags.
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Improve question is already only allowed for certain members (up to a grade of reputation). And that allow the improver to change subject, content, tag... So just adding the homework tag would be enough, the rest is already working.
Regards.
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M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Also, the ability to filter away questions based on tag is not yet a feature... as far as I know, you can only show questions based on their tags (rather than hide them based on their tags). For example, it would be neat to say:
Show me all questions with any of these tags:
C#
WPF
SQL
But exclude any questions that also contain any of these tags:
Homework Question
Work Request
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Oh, sorry I didn't understand your point. You are right, that is not done yet.
I thought you was meaning the ability to change the question tag from one to another.
Regards.
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M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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In the works
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Tim Craig wrote: Or should be be able to flag it after the fact?
That's a whole other ball of wax. Although, other sites, like AllExperts.com, do allow people to categorize and reject questions according to various options (not really a question, homework question, etc.). That might be a useful feature. It would at least inform the user of why nobody is answering their question.
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In the forums I hang out in regularly, the homework seekers are told why their question isn't going to be answered. 
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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It would probably be useful to tell them once why their question isn't going to be answered, tagging it as "homework question", then allowing the regulars here to filter out those questions so they don't all have to see them.
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aspdotnetdev wrote: It would probably be useful to tell them once why their question isn't going to be answered
If only they'd get the hint after being slammed with it once.... 
You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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Well, if they keep asking questions like that and they keep going unanswered, I imagine they'll eventually give up.
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We'll allow new tags to be created soon.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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N a v a n e e t h wrote: Can we have home-work tag for QA?
Ditto.
Luckily I read your post title before doing my own (and being flamed...  ).
I would ask for a 'gimme-codez' tag too.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong.
-- Iain Clarke
[My articles]
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Noticing the huge amount of space on the Lounge frequently taken up by deleted posts from certain members (who seem to specialize in getting their posts deleted), and the responses to the deleted posts ...
And then, following in the wake of the deleted posts, "meta-deleted-post" posts like this one : [^] :
What about the idea that all such threads, including the responses, are moved to a special place outside the Lounge : then, on the Lounge, put a simple message saying the thread authored by "xxxx" on "#date" has been removed to "#name of forum" with a simple link to the thread's new location : and, for this simple message only, disable the ability to reply to it on the Lounge.
The idea would be to thus create a place where deleted threads can live on in all their glory, and people can comment to their heart's content forever and ever, while those of us who have no interest in "flotsam and jetsam" can happily enjoy the Lounge.
This would have the effect of making the Lounge less cluttered, as it is today, with whole pages, on which the entire contents are about threads which have been deleted.
Perhaps this would also be an appropriate place to put threads which clearly state they have no purpose other than to "make noise" : [^] :
"I was just trying to see how many people would click on this message. Too bad the site doesn't count views on a given message. ... snip ...I'm at work, bored (waiting on the boss to provide some info), so I thought I'd jump on today's "Why XXXXX Sucks Today" bandwagon..."
best, Bill
Dante Aligheri, Purgatorio, Canto XVI, lines 79-83 :
"A maggior forza e a miglior natura
liberi soggiacete; e quella cria
la mente in voi, che 'l ciel no ha in sua cura.
Però, se 'l mondo presente disvia,
in voi è la cagione, in voi si cheggia.
To a greater force, and to a better nature,
you, free, are subject, and that creates
the mind in you, which the heavens have not in their charge.
Therefore if the present world go astray,
the cause is in you, in you it is to be sought."
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
modified on Thursday, January 7, 2010 11:03 PM
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BillWoodruff wrote: What about the idea that all such threads, including the responses, are moved to a special place outside the Lounge : then
Avoid cluttering the Lounge - my vote of 5 right away !
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But how would this work? Do I shift a thread if only the top message is deleted? If a certain percentage of messages are deleted? What if the first message is nuked but the remaining messages are gold?
Typically if a member is being abusive I'll either move the threads to the backroom (if things are getting out of hand) or just have a chat to the member. If it's someone truly being malicious then our Terms Of Use cover that scenario.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: But how would this work? Do I shift a thread if only the top message is deleted? If a certain percentage of messages are deleted? What if the first message is nuked but the remaining messages are gold?
Hi Chris,
I realize, in making that suggestion, it's a sticky one : who's got the time to review every secondary post on a thread, and make individual decisions as to what is valuabe and should remain ?
My comment/suggestion is based on the following assumptions :
1. if the post that started the thread (OP) has been removed, it has been removed for good reasons. If I ever had a post removed that I started a thread with, I'd immediately assume I had violated CP norms or culture in some way, and I'd apologize (not on the Lounge : since that would be "prolonging the life" of the removed post), but probably here : on this forum. But, if I felt I had really grossly defamed or insulted someone on the Lounge : I'd apologize there as well.
2. my suggestion is made in an absence of any real "quantitative" knowledge of the ratio of posting to threads (whose OP is removed) before and after the act of removal, but with the assumption that most of the secondary posts were posted prior to the removal of the first post.
I do believe that most CP members using the Lounge would not object to their secondary posts, in the case of deletion of an OP, travelling along with the deleted post's "stub" (carcass ?) to this hypothetical "reservation" away from the Lounge.
In fact I would predict a shift in Lounge culture over a period of a month or two where people would accept this new "paradigm" and actually be happy with it. And, I'd also expect one or two angry "how dare you re-locate my precious words" responses
But, here's an idea : why not do a survey : either on the Lounge, or more formally in the form of CP's monthly surveys. I'm not deluded enough to feel I, in any way, represent the modal CP user, or even modal Lounge user
In fact, I'd guess I am so far-out on the "fringe of the bell curve" of CP Lounge users, in general, that this may be a "frivolous" idea, well worth ignoring. And my "feelings" in no way could, or would be, "hurt" if there was no response to this idea.
And, speaking of "frivolity" : perhaps we could use the good-old marketing techniques (so characteristic of software and hardware business) to make this more palatable to CP Loungers, turn the "stickiness" into a new "feature."
Let's name this special forum for removed OP's, and subsequent secondary posts, and tertiary independent posts "after the fact of OP removal" talking about "what did I miss when ..." : "Heaven."
far-out, man, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
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BillWoodruff wrote: I do believe that most CP members using the Lounge would not object to their secondary posts, in the case of deletion of an OP, travelling along with the deleted post's "stub" (carcass ?) to this hypothetical "reservation" away from the Lounge.
In fact I would predict a shift in Lounge culture over a period of a month or two where people would accept this new "paradigm" and actually be happy with it. And, I'd also expect one or two angry "how dare you re-locate my precious words" responses
This is what we essentially already do (and have done). The offending party usually gets the hint and life goes on, and then new wanna-be trolls crawl out from under their bridge and off we go again.
The trick is finding the time and exercising the correct judgment. People should have the right to be heard. As long as they are on-topic and within the Terms of Use.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hi CP Friends,
IE 8. Win Vista.
Every time I select a block of text and choose to format it italicized, using the formatting facilities in the CP message editor :
When I post or preview the message it does not appear in italics : rather what appears is <i> ... italicized text ... <i>
But, if I edit the message and remove the "<i>" and ".</i>" formatting tags, then select the block again, and italicize again :
The second time, the text appears properly italicized.
thanks, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
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How about this IE8 on Windows 7.
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Hi Richard,
I'm happy if it works for you on Win 7 and IE8; the behavior I am reporting (and <i>this </i>is the forum to report site problems) is, as I said clearly, on Win Vista with IE8.
Of course it may not be a CP related issue at all : maybe there's some obscure setting in IE8 that's causing this : that's why I am reporting it, and that's why I reported this as "consistent problems ...," not using the word : "bug" 
Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
modified on Thursday, January 7, 2010 8:38 AM
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Do you have "Do not interpret HTML tags" checked? (just under the main Text entry box)
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Do you have "Do not interpret HTML tags" checked? (just under the main Text entry box)
Hi Chris,
Yes ... duhhhhh ... unchecking that took care of it, as well as restoring the blockquotes.
I take note of the fact this is the second time recently that I observed a change in CP behavior, and assumed that either it was by "design" by CP, or must be a mistake in my settings external to CP : another indicator of an ingrained attitude that "CP could do no wrong."
I will try to "root out" this assumption, and replace it with the attitude : "I must be doing something wrong."
thanks, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
modified on Thursday, January 7, 2010 10:01 PM
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Hi CP Friends,
I would consider it very inauspicious to have my #1000th. post on CP (I'm at #999 now) be a flame, so I'd like to ask your advice on how to handle a certain behavior on the Lounge.
Twice now a certain person on the Lounge has responded to certain original posts (not by me, but which I have responded on) by starting his response with
"Bill Woodruff wrote"
... posts from the original post, not by BW, here
The first time he did this, I responded with a polite note just mentioning that he had mis-quoted me : I didn't "take him to task" in any way.
So, now, the second time this has happened, I've asked him directly asking him to stop this, and today received this reply :
"Actually I (and you, and the OP) quoted Strunk, with citation, so it's not a misquote, at all.
Is there a reason why you think that the misleading quoting "mechanism" you appear to have adopted is better than the one provided by CP?
Just curious, 'cause it ain't.
This is pretty amazing to me; since it seems to imply the person in question is actually deliberately attributing to me words that are not mine : I can't imagine any possible motivation for doing this ! To my knowledge I've never commented negatively on anything said commentor said.
Further, the person, implies I am not using CP's standard quote mechanism, when, in fact I am; the only variation is that I am inserting a carriage return, and putting the quote in italics which, in my opinion, makes it more apparent that the quote is a quote (coming from a long background of technical editing, having any quote without quotation marks doesn't quite seem enough to me).
Okay, so I "voted to remove" the comments by said unrepentant mis-quoter.
So, just curious to ask you : would you "flame back," or just "report as abuse" and "sit back" as I have done ? Or what ?
thanks, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
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