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harold aptroot wrote: (btw her whole MSN name is "Angel Eyes- The love we give away is the only love we keep.")
Way, way TMI.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction.
My work here is done.
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Ok honestly though, we (me and her, not you) are probably going to get engaged soon (this summer or so) so keep reading the Lounge! (or not, if you don't care lol)
@others: sorry for going offtopic so far 
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Awww - good luck mate ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
Dave
BTW, in software, hope and pray is not a viable strategy. (Luc Pattyn)
Why are you using VB6? Do you hate yourself? (Christian Graus)
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Thanks
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Does she know? If not you should remember that a proposal should include a diamond ring and not a couple of roofies in her drink.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction.
My work here is done.
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I have another suggestion:
Quick answers shouldn't have a voting range from 1 to 5. It should either be "Yes" that answered my question or "No" it did not.
The reason:
A follow-up question was posted to one of my answers, and I answered the posters follow up question (at least, I thought I did). My answer was voted 3 with no reason as to why a "3". I answered the question and the answer I provided was completely accurate.
I tell my kids this all the time ... If you ask a question and I answer it, you either understand the answer or you don't. If you don't understand the answer, then I didn't answer your question, so tell me I Don't understand, and I'll try to rephrase my answer so you can better understand it, don't say "I think I get it", when you don't really.
The same rules apply here ... you either understand my answer, and therefore "Yes" I have answered your question or you do not understand or I have not answered the question, so therefore "No" I have not answered the question.
Maybe you need: Yes this answers my question, I don't understand the answer, rephrase, or "NO" this did not answer the original question.
Honestly, voting levels of 1-5 are so meaningless here ...
That's my two cents,
D.
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I strongly disagree. An answer can be correct but incomplete; it can be an attempt to be complete but partly incorrect; it can be correct, complete and suboptimal, etc etc. So I would vote it 3 if that is what it deserves, and certainly not a 5 if and when it looks good but I think I have a better answer.
IMO all "good question/bad question" and "good answer/bad answer" votes should go, they all deserve a scale so one can quantify how good/how bad things are.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
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Luc Pattyn wrote: An answer can be correct but incomplete; it can be an attempt to be complete but partly incorrect; it can be correct, complete and suboptimal, etc etc.
Partial answers do not answer the question.
Using your method, someone gives you a partial answer, you vote a 3. The person that gave the answer is left wondering "What the heck does that mean? I answered the question". Do you not like the answer I gave? Did you not like the wording? Was it not complete (perhaps the individual that posted the answer thought it was complete), are you just being a dork, and voted me a 3 just because?
If the person asking the question doesn't provide any form of feedback, it leaves the person that answered the question in a position to have to go ask them "Why'd you vote me a '3'", and then wait for a response, etc..etc..etc...
It's just too vague.
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Douglas Troy wrote: someone gives you a partial answer, you vote a 3
Nope. First, I don't ask much questions, I answer a lot. If I were to ask something, and get a partial answer, I would judge it on its merits and probably vote 2 or 4 or not at all.
When someone asks a question and gets a partial answer, I will provide the full answer if I can, and I will vote if I feel a need to; I will explain my vote if it isn't obvious already from other replies that something is wrong, missing, or suboptimal. I will feel a need to vote if someone gets a partial or a partially wrong answer, and that answer gets voted 1 or 5; I will immediately vote the opposite to counteract the wrong vote, wrong IMO at least. If in a 1-or-5 world that results in an average of 3, I can't help that.
Douglas Troy wrote: Partial answers do not answer the question.
So if you ask a question and get a partial, clear and correct, although incomplete, answer, will you down-vote the answer in your black-and-white world?
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
modified on Thursday, January 28, 2010 6:11 PM
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Luc Pattyn wrote: So if you ask a question and get a partial, clear and correct, although incomplete, answer, will you down-vote the answer in your black-and-white world?
I was waiting for you to say something along the lines of black-and-white, or absolutes, etc..etc.. ... but Chris has pointed out that there is an accept answer, which changes the game a bit (I had not noticed that ... gee .. the world's NOT black-and-white, sometimes it has bright yellow boxes around it too!).
I realize, of course, the world is certainly not black-and-white, even though there are many things in software development that are ... but people are voting answers to questions 3's, 4's and not stating why. So as a person that's trying to help these people find a solution, when something like that happens, it leaves me wondering what it is about the solution I offered them that was, to uses Chris' own words here, "Suboptimal".
To me it's rather like if I walk up to you and ask a question, you give me an answer that you know will work, and I say thank you. Then I ask a follow-up question, you give me yet another answer, and then I say "meh" and just walk off ...
Don't you think you'd be left there thinking "WTF was that about?" I know I would.
So I guess I'm just going to have to ask them 'why' when they vote low.
BTW - I've seen people vote a '1' to a person's follow-up question, when I thought they're follow-up question made sense ... being that they didn't have the slightest clue to begin with, which is why they were asking a question in the first place. Same kind of thing in reverse, and it makes no sense to me either.
We'll see what happens when I start asking "why"
Thank you for your opinion.
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you're welcome.
Not sure to what extent a voter will react to a question why if he didn't care explaining himself to start with.
FWIW: one shouldn't overestimate the importance of a vote here, there's all kind of people around, and if you get a vote that is considered unjust by the community, good people are very quick at compensating for that, and they are likely to have a heavier vote too.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
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That's why we have the 'Accept Answer' button.
Something can be answered, but it might be suboptimal or not as clear as it could be. It could still be an answer that's good enough to get you through (hence 'accept answer') but it might only deserve a 4, not a 5.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: That's why we have the 'Accept Answer' button.
I take it, that the one's that show up in a yellow box are the answers that have been "accepted"?
Chris Maunder wrote: Something can be answered, but it might be suboptimal or not as clear as it could be. It could still be an answer that's good enough to get you through (hence 'accept answer') but it might only deserve a 4, not a 5.
Emmm. Well then, I guess I'll have to take issue with the people that vote my answers 3's and 4's, and ask them why, when I actually answered their question, what it was about the answer, they felt was "suboptimal".
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![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. [The QA section does it automatically now, I hope we soon get it on regular forums as well]
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Whenever I vist any CP article page I am getting a warning in firefox (v3.5.7)
A script from "http://www.codeproject.com" is requesting enhanced abilities that are UNSAFE and could be used to compromise your machine or data:
Run or install software on your machine
Allow these abilities only if you trust this source to be free of viruses or malicious programs.
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Jaimie,
I unfortunately just upgrade to FF 3.6 and can not recreate the issue you are reporting.
Could you please post or email me a specific url for a page which causes this problem?
The site does use JavaScript with jQuery loaded from a CDN (another domain) which might be mistaken for an attack depending on how your browser and other security tools are configured.
Matthew Dennis
Senior Developer
The CodeProject
matthew.dennis@codeproject.com
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Ignore me.
In my testing for copying to clipboard for a project I had switched on "signed.applets.codebase_principal_support" in about:config - this was the cause of the dialog I was getting.
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The devexpress banner (on the left, the small one under bob) seems to be malfunctioning.
When hovering it, the mouse changes to a hand but clicking doesn't do anything, also no url is shown at the bottom when hovering.
Also noticed it with the top banner once but can't seem to reproduce it there.
Noticed on Web19
Using Chrome
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Thank you for pointing this out, these ones slipped by me. The banners have been stopped and the client has been contacted.
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My Rep Graph seems to show that I got some negative Participant Rep Points in the past, but according to the FAQ there is no way to receive those. What's going on here?
Also, less importantly, the text on the rep graph is slightly blurred with rainbowish colours, looks like ClearType (of a type that is not right for my monitor) that was hardcoded into the image.
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You rep point for participant show 597 for me.
Also the line doesn't go down (for as far as I can see) so looks fine for me.
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It goes down for me, between July 09 and October 09 it goes down about 9 times, 5 of those it went down by enough to colour the pixel under the line, the other 4 times it's a sub-pixel detail.
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I think your just seeing the point that marks the exact time when something happened.
But you'll have to wait for Chris to verify that.
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That could be.. but it looks very odd, it's very easy to imagine the line going down a bit at those places
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I think that it's an optical illusion that you're experiencing. The line looks too tiny and the details are very minute for me to decide. 
Thiru just clarified yesterday that the participation reputation cannot go down, even if someone low-votes you.
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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