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You misread me: I certainly don't resent recalculting. It's just a button click 
What I worry about is the endless round of "but where did my points go????".
However, points should all go up, not down.
I will recalc, but I will put on a flame proof suit first. And yes, the rep list is designed specifically for you guys to see more clearly what's happening to save confusion and also help out with diagnostics if anything is amiss.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: where did my points go?
There's two aspects: during recalculation and afterwards.
1.
I think the main problem is what happens during recalculation: everyone gets back to zero, some are surprised, all colors and privileges are gone, long-term members can't edit/delete any longer, etc. That is why I recommend you recalculate in the background (using separate counters), while you continue to use the old values for displaying and decision making.
2.
I agree, the end result is bound to rise. And anyhow, it should fit what the FAQ says, however I still feel the FAQ still isn't good enough. It isn't always clear (some descriptions are long and confusing), it does not mention weight factors, etc.
And yes, some points might go down due to the large number of daily limits which seem to have been added recently; I remember that column being almost empty not so long ago; did you really implement all those limits?
If you want to avoid complaints about sudden changes, I recommend you stop applying rule changes retro-actively. You don't want the tax law changes to work retro-actively either, do you?
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Luc Pattyn wrote: You don't want the tax law changes to work retro-actively either, do you
Oh, but they do. What was legal years back can be re-evaluated and found to have a different interpretation.
But anyway, point (1) has been mitigated in that we use a new method of calculating that drastically minimises the time your points are reset to 0.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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let's have it!
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Chris Maunder wrote: It's just a button click
Go on Click It.......get it out of the way!
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Chris Maunder wrote: It's just a button click
What? No need for two senior sys admins, entering 256-character launch codes simultaneously? reckless it is.
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Standards are dropping woefully, I know...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Luc Pattyn wrote: I'm in favor of articles getting rewarded more, as you well know.
Same here
You can spend a week writing an article, get 10 5s, or get the same rep points by answering two questions and posting "smart/funny" responses that will gain dozens of 5s. So overall the rep scores are not in favor of authors compared to people answering questions. I reckon the 2011 MVPs will reflect this bias (more of them will be people who are active in the forums than article authors).
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: Same here
I can't imagine why. 
Of course we need both articles and forum discussions.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: Of course we need both articles and forum discussions.
Absolutely agree but I think it should be balanced.
Luc Pattyn wrote: I can't imagine why
Well I can't defend that accusation. Except that if I was hell-bent on getting a higher rep score, I believe I can do that, whether through articles or through forum activity. Just that these days I am not as concerned about such things as some years ago when I was numerically obsessed with this sort of stats
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I'm glad to see your obsession has become less numerical now.
It is understandable though, you're the only sixtuple platinum, so why bother with rep points any longer?
It is too bad you're such a poor enquirer...
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Chris Maunder wrote: rerun the rep calculations to take into account further things like points for bookmarking
About time you did that! 
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Luc Pattyn wrote: 1. the datetime format is pretty weird, I'd never put time in front of date. I personally would use "dd-MMM-yyyy HH:mm", or alternatively "yyyy-MMM-dd HH:mm".
Unless you make it user configurable and automatically set the default using location I vote for the ISO format. The US and EU formats will both offend large numbers of people who are too stupid to understand a date that's half backwards. Neither has any justification behind their stupidity so you might as well use the option that is most rational in design and offend both groups equally.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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Dan Neely wrote: offend both groups equally
a noble goal.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: Reputation History is a great new feature.
Where is it? I can't find it. Priviledge issue?
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it comes and goes, it still is work in progress.
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Ya, I read it was work in progress. Will wait to see what is that and the discussion around. Thanks.
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When trying to visit this message, which was posted at the bottom of an article, I got this message:
We're Sorry, but the article you are trying to view was deleted at 17 Dec 2010.
A few comments:
- If the article was deleted, why can I still see that it had 3 revisions and that it has 7 votes that amount to a rating of 1.13?
- Some of the widgets on the right of the page are overlapping.
- "Sorry" should not be capitalized.
- It should say "deleted on", not "deleted at" ("on" is typically used for dates and "at" is used for times).
- I was trying to point you to my above linked message in my bug report below. In general, it would be nice to be able to still point people to messages even after the article it is posted on is deleted. I'm not sure if this would be feasible for you to implement, however.
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See this message I posted at the bottom of an article. I posted a short version of that message by voting the article a 2 and then entering some text saying "I'll fill this in soon because it's hard to type into this little box". I then edited that message and typed what I really wanted to say. Only, the new title I wanted ("my vote of 2: Great Potential With Poor Execution") did not persist. I'm guessing it is a feature to prevent people from changing their "my vote of 1" messages to "my vote of 5" messages (or similar). Here are my comments on this:
- I cannot distinguish my message from the other downvotes, and I would like to be able to do so.
- The preview shows that my new subject is intact, but then posting the message removes my new subject line. The preview should reflect what will actually be posted.
- I think this feature should be kept, but modified somewhat.
As far as modifying the feature, here are my suggestions. For one, make sure the preview matches what is actually posted. Maybe have some other indicator on the message (other than the subject line) that the message is the result of a downvote (perhaps a star indicator to the right of the subject line). Either that, or allow the user to enter a subheader in addition to the main subject of "my vote of x". There are various ways you could implement that. For example, you could always just ensure the left of the subject is always "my vote of x" and the user can type whatever to the right (but then you'd have to find a way to warn the user that they can't change that part of the subject). Or, you could add the "my vote of x" as a label to the left of the subject line textbox, then let the user type whatever into the textbox (and it'll get appended to the "my vote of x" text when it gets posted or previewed).
And if you must leave this feature as is, make it so the subject line is read-only (so users don't get confused as to why their subject line didn't change).
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This bug is still not fixed since 2010. I've tried a few times to change the title of vote comment, but it doesn't work.
Please fix it ASAP, as this is quite basic functionality of the site.
Michael Freidgeim.
Blog: http://geekswithblogs.net/mnf/
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I posted an answer in Q&A, which contained the character "é". In the preview it didn't display properly ("@~"), so I went back to modify my answer, removed the "é" and replaced it with a normal "e", but explained, what I changed and inserted the "é" there to cause the same error for show reasongs. Preview still shows the wrong characters, but after pressing the post-button, everything seems to be fine, "é" displayed correct. I am confused. Why didn't it work in the first place, and why are characters like this one not properly displayed in the preview? Had the same some time ago, when somebody posted a question in French and I left an answer both in French and English: I had to remove the letters with accents, cause they didn't show properly.
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
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It almost has to be a unicode issue of some sort, but the most obvious cause is out. @~ is 0x407e, which doesn't match any of the unicode representations for é[^] or É[^].
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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Maybe there are enough weird characters in Q&A already?
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That's it then.
Anyway, I am outta here. Have to catch my tube. Friday's nightlive's calling. ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)
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