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That was a nice read... well explained. Progress of CP in short! 
BTW, I need to accpet that it's very clear that Luc's & Han's comment hurt you bad. But I doubt if that was their real intent.
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Sandeep Mewara wrote: I need to accpet that it's very clear that Luc's & Han's comment hurt you bad
I'm not that thin skinned. Their comments make me feel I am not being transparent enough, and also frustrate me in that I may not be being loud enough in letting the community know the changes I'm making and the reasoning behind such changes. I just truly wish there were more hours in the day to get everything done, but the trick is simply to prioritise better and learn when to say no.
In any case this has generated some valuable discussions in the office.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Their comments make me feel I am not being transparent enough, and also frustrate me in that I may not be being loud enough in letting the community know the changes I'm making and the reasoning behind such changes
Ok. Got that.
Chris Maunder wrote: . I just truly wish there were more hours in the day to get everything done, but the trick is simply to prioritise better and learn when to say no
Chris Maunder wrote: In any case this has generated some valuable discussions in the office.
Oh.. more positives then... 
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Thanks for a great message. Much appreciated. I can only wish you update or repeat this regularly. I learned a few things, and agree with most of what you said.
I agree there were good reasons to extend the existing capabilities, however I think I would have tried harder and stuck on to the simpler model if at all possible, both for the user's sake and the implementor's. "Do more without significantly adding code" would be the attempted motto.
I still wish there would be a unified way to handle articles and T&T (and blogs), as IMO they will continue to besiege each other's territory (T&T wanting ever more functionality: downloads, images, ...), some articles still tending to be rather short. As you explained the rationale now, I think I'd treat and store them all as one, provide several ways of entry (so the user picks what suits him best), automatically determine their type (real article, memo type, tip/trick, whatever; or maybe just size and hasDownloads), and list them any way the user wants.
And I still wish there would be a unified way to handle both forum threads and Q&A, as their border isn't clear and solid; what starts out as a simple question may turn into a real discussion, and what gets launched as a discussion opener could be cut short by a reply holding a link to an existing article that deals with all of it. So here too I would try and opt for one repository, possibly several ways for entry, and possibly several ways for listing, viewing, and adding replies/answers/solutions/comments.
Not sure what the future will bring us, new requirements and advancing insight will probably decide. However, no matter how things evolve, keep up the good work, and keep inviting and inspiring people to join and grow the community. Thanks again.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.
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I completely agree with a lot of your points... a big one that I didn't even understand at first, is why there's two places to post questions (forums and Q&A) and they act so much differently, it does seem like it would be a lot of work to maintain both.
...but like you did say, I'd like to see all the good capabilities of one be in the other.
...on the other hand, I do appreciate what the site has to offer and am happy to help.
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Albert Holguin wrote: I do appreciate what the site has to offer and am happy to help
Of course. That probably applies to everyone who visits sugs&bugs.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
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+1 to what Richard said.
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Code project provides a list of MVPs, but not a “ranking” member list, like top 1000 all-time, top 100 this year, and top 100 this month. So there are members with more than 100000 points to their “credit” that are hard to spot, and MVPs below 20000. It would also be nice if an icon was added to the profile of “high-performing” members.
Best regards
Espen Harlinn
Espen Harlinn
Senior Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services
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The Who's Who page does some of that (allows you to sort members by how they rank in various categories, such as message count or reputation points).
Fixign now. | But who's fixing the fixign? |
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The Who's Who page seems to be a bit outdated with regard to who is actually putting in an effort - not that these people aren't doing anything, but there is definitely a growing set of ommissions
Espen Harlinn
Senior Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services
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Not sure what you mean by it being outdated. There are fields that allow you to select which items you want to sort by. As far as I'm aware, the values used for the sort are real time.
Fixign now. | But who's fixing the fixign? |
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Hmm, I suddenly find myself blushing furiously – oops! 
It would still be cool to have this page say something about activity this year, and this month, as members like Christian Graus, kind of outshines just about everybody else, something he obviously deserves.
Well, it was just a thought
Espen Harlinn
Senior Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services
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How about something like this[^]? Is that vaguely what you're after?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
modified on Monday, July 18, 2011 10:38 AM
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very interesting. A few comments, obviously:
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layout could be better, it really begs for a 2-D matrix aka table.
maybe two columns: one column for article info, one for forum info.
alternatively two rows: one articles, one forums.
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the time spans seem special and pretty counter-intuitive, e.g. I suspect "this week" really means anything since 8 midnights ago, Toronto time, hence spanning anywhere between 7 and 8 days.
ADDED
PS: where ever the page (and this message) says article, it probably means Q&A (thanks Sandeep)
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Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
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Can you please add this link in Feature[^] section?
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When it's 100% acceptable to Luc with no further features, corrections or alterations, then gladly.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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You could have just said "no". 
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Chris doesn't say "No".
He may call a bug a "feature", he may do or not do something "by design", but he seldom says "No".
And at times he is pretty good at "drowning the fish" ("de vis verdrinken" is a delaying tactic popular amongst politicians).
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
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Wow Luc. I don't know what to say to that.
Not everyone wants exactly what you want, not everyone prioritises their requests in the same order as you do, and not everyone has 48hrs in the day.
We are a very small group, Luc, and work day and night to try and get through the ever growing, ever varied, ever changing list of things that need doing, including a great deal of time simply running the site that has nothing to do with fixes or new features.
If I'm not fast enough or if the things we work on don't match your expectations then I apologise.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: work day and night to try and get through...
you do, I know, everyone knows.
I did say you seldom say "No". Maybe you should more often. Mostly on the looks, not the functionality, if you ask me.
And yes, sometimes I would like to get things better and sooner. The renewed search was one such feature (pretty good now, could still become better with a little effort). Not showing a "Delete" widget on non-leaf forum messages is one (half done). Code sniffing in forum messages (my article dates Jan-2010). A web service.
I appreciate the work you and your group is doing. The results are great; site traffic must prove that. However I also see a need to urge you to remain focused on core functionality and quality.
![Beer | [beer]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
PS: there is another recent thread that fits in with this.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
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 Good Catch.
Regards - Kunal Chowdhury | Microsoft MVP (Silverlight) | CodeProject MVP | Software Engineer
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Chris Maunder wrote: 100% acceptable to Luc with no further features, corrections or alterations
So never then? 
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You could provide it as is, or give it a simple make over and launch it.
And whatever you do, this community is bound to come up sooner or later with more feature requests, bug reports, and everything you have come to expect.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.
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Every time I go to that page, my scrotum itches. I'm using Win7 and IE8.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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