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Wow, I guess I need to check my RAM. 
Now that we've established that, can you please add that infos to the popup? ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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I do believe the time has come, and filtering through all the static on the Lounge to find the "signal" is tiresome.
My preference: strong moderation to eliminate OT posts, personal fluffing, etc.
best, Bill
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." Miss Piggy"
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One of the problems though is the underlying technologies.
For example, if the metro style apps are HTML5 + Javascript, where do the users post the questions, you end up with stuff all over the place.
Its bad enough at the moment with the VB/C#, ASP.net, Javascript, Windows Forms, .Net forums, and regularly see question which were probably better suited in one of the others, but technically are also in the correct place.
It might be easy to have a HTML5/CSS3/Javascript type combined, as that would also capture web app programming through the browser.
Its like a big bowl of technology broth all mixed up!
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Hi Dave, thanks for taking your time to respond !
My suggestion doesn't really focus on the Q/A forums side of things, but was intended to suggest a forum for discussion of the broader implications of all the new technology in Win8, which is going to be a major shift. Issues of migration, issues of interaction between older technologies and the new, issues in deployment, etc.
I think forums for Win8 questions can be added later, per flavor (Metro and WRT, SilverLight, WinC++) of technology, using CP's existing structure.
Right now there's some excellent discussion in the Lounge, and I'm following comments by several CP members closely, like Daniel Grunwald, and, of course, Pete O'Hanlon. But, there's such a tsunami of twittophrenic crap in the Lounge I'd like to see a special forum for these issues which I believe directly affect many CP members work and businesses, and, potentially, income.
best, Bill
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." Miss Piggy"
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For now I would prefer to just let things settle down. BUILD has just wrapped up so of course the topic de jour will be Win8 and its cohorts, and I think it's great there's so much discussion.
The fuss will die down quickly, and then once we have sufficient volume of working-life questions and discussions we can open a new forum.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thanks, Nish-ji, You are also one of the people on CP whose interesting posts I 'follow' closely 
best, Bill
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." Miss Piggy"
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BillWoodruff wrote: Thanks, Nish-ji, You are also one of the people on CP whose interesting posts I
'follow' closely
Good to hear that Bill-ji
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agreed +5
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun
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I caved[^]
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Since Codeproject was down, I had to busy myself with actual work, and was forced to put up with a mix of VB and javascript, the most unholy union I can envision for a working programer.
Chris, I hope you're happy...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Is a visit to the shooting range in order for the weekend? I think so.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Always.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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I'm so, so sorry.
Next time I'll put up a video of a kitten pressing buttons or something. Anything but VB and javascript...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Strange, so did I, however it did result in me restructuring some javascript callbacks and filtering logic and finding a problem that has been pulling my hair out (yes one of the few I have left), and a chance to try VS11.
Today, will therefore be an article update day (hopefully)
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Mine wasn't nearly as interesting. I had to rework an implementation of a long-ago-abandoned 3rd party menu system that I've never personally had any exposure to, and figure out how to control what the menu contains based on the user's role. To make matters worse, the javascript was "optimized" into a single line more than 10,000 characters long, using variables like "l56", "l118", and crap like that. ALL of the variables and method names had been changed to obfuscated names.
I ended up having to spend most of the day evaluating the menu code just so I could add three lines of javascript and about a dozen lines of VB.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: To make matters worse, the javascript was "optimized" into a single line more than 10,000 characters long
eww! I hate coming accross those when poking around sites javascript. Thankfully Chromes "pretty print" button works wonders to sort out the formatting, at least making things easier to read the structure.
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The "Home" link in CodeProject's green header bar doesn't work; it points at this invalid URL: http://www.codeproject.com/Forums/Common/WebControls/www.codeproject.com
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Hi everybody,
since an update about 1 1/2 hours ago every link to the Visual Basic forum ends on some script.com site...
What's wrong? Are you going to correct that or has VB been eliminated?
Thanks
Mick
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Michael Schäuble wrote: has VB been eliminated
Oh, they did not tell you ? They stopped it 11 years ago.
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I'm getting the Java lounge instead of the real one.
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 Same here !
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Seems the Lounge isn't the Lounge. But you are probably aware of the issue, so I'll just go chat in the French forum until the Lounge is fixed.
Martin Fowler wrote: Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
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Like this?
while (LoungeIsStillBroke)
{
try
{
Post(FrenchForum, "Merde");
}
catch(UnknownForumException e)
{
Post(BugsAndSuggestions, "We need a French Forum!";
}
}
Edit: added error handling code
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
modified on Friday, September 16, 2011 3:03 PM
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Actually, the first French phrase I learned (courtesy of my mom) was "merde avec beaucoup d'eau."
Martin Fowler wrote: Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand.
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