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Yesterday I noticed that forums for blog posts that are in approval queue have gone missing. Is that intentional?
There are 3 blog posts by 'Vasil Trifonov' currently in approval queue, it has formatting issues and I wanted to post and tell author about it using blog's message forum - it's not there.
Bug or forum has been removed?
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Clogged perhaps? Seems all clear now. Thanks for checking though.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
The Code Project
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Recently ,for my question somebody posted solution.I thought solution is good but not i asked for , hence I gave 3 out of 5 (single vote). Now he is complaining its down vote. Is it correct?Its down vote.
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A 3 is neutral in the fact that it doesn't give negative or positive reputation points, but if a post has already got one vote of 5 and you give it a 3 then you are bringing the average down to 4, so effectively downgrading the 5. Similarly, if a post has a vote of 1 and you give it a 3 you are upping the average.
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I think this is perfectly fine. In this case it is an answer in QA and if the OP felt it did not resolve the problem, the average should go down. In any case it should not hurt the member posting the answer. I would not object if I answered a question and received a 3-vote.
Had it been an article, you could argue that it hurts the author to have the average rating lowered even if there is no change in points. I do wish Code Project would change the 3-vote on articles so you don't have to leave a comment. There are people who take offense to getting 3-vote as this thread shows.
Soren Madsen
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I went through all 5 of your questions and did not find any comment where someone was complaining about your vote. Could you link to it please?
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I am not sure of him, but if you need an example, have a look at this: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4439694/My-vote-of-3.aspx[^]
After I saw this thread, I checked my history and did find this at exact datetime:
29 Nov 2012 8:49 PM -10 Author Article Downvoted Article How to extend a WPF Textbox to Custom Picker
I too was under assumption that 3 is neutral, but it looks like it has a different(context based) interpretation. 
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Perhaps this is an old bug 'reincarnated'. I remember when voting was first introduced 3 did result in a negative vote. Chris fixed it but now it looks like it is back.
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Apparently this post[^] has been flagged as spam (at least) 36 times, but it's still there. Aren't they supposed to be removed after a certain number of reports? (The account was closed though, so it looks like it's working there.)
modified 30-Nov-12 11:32am.
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Now at 51!
Bob Dole The internet is a great way to get on the net.
 2.0.82.7292 SP6a
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Bug squashed
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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What happened? Some counter error? Some kind of database error?
Bob Dole The internet is a great way to get on the net.
2.0.82.7292 SP6a
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OK, gather round kids and I'll tell you a story...
Our reputation system grew quickly from a simple system that awarded points for posting articles to a system that was very fine grained. The initial code to award points was baked into the stored procedures that created articles, but as it grew we found we were mixing two patters: one which baked calls to the rep system into the sprocs, and one which used our modular code system that listened to "events" that occurred and would react appropriately.
When we moved our reputation system from a site-centric to network-centric system we, by necessity, had to pull out all the code in the sprocs and move them into message handlers (ie do it properly). We have 77 rep events and dozens of event handlers and we got a few of them cross-wired. However, since I had turned off ratings in the forums, this had masked the issue, because the rating and reporting systems were connected (again, another TODO: untangle them).
It was a straight out bug on our part, and it's the same bug I'm fixing, Friday night, bottle of red, to ensure points are awarded when you edit a Quick Answer question or answer.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Would it be possible to switch up how reporting deducts points?
Right now, abusive reporters can cost ~100 points without much reprieve from the poster. Would it be possible to only apply the negative points AFTER the post has been deemed as spam/abusive?
It would prevent individuals from doing far more damage than a single one-vote.
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Good idea. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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That's a great idea, and yes, that's actually going to happen.
Right now I don't have the resources or time to do this, since it involves a fairly fundamental, but very, very much needed change.
In the meantime, however, I've simply set the points you lose to zero. This will take effect soon.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Awesome. Will this be retroactive or just for future reports?
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So, I got my answer to the prior question.
But now, I have one more question. Regarding the 800+ points lost from people abusing the reporting feature, is there any way to overturn those?
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Indeed.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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Andrew Rissing wrote: But now, I have one more question. Regarding the 800+ points lost from people abusing the reporting feature, is there any way to overturn those?
They'll be back the next time a full recalculation is done. This may be done concurrent with the change, or might wait until more changes are queued up: The recalc takes a while to complete and often results in "where did my points go?!?!?!11eleventyone1" posts from people who see their total when the calc is only partially complete and panic. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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This is the advantage I have of being ignorant...
... Of my points. I never know if I have gained or lost points.
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The only way to do that is to undo all the reporting events. And no, I'm not going to do that. If certain high-level members want to abuse this site, and the members who use it, then the only option I have is to just open up the reporting system so it's clear who's being counter productive.
But no - I'm not going to play Big Brother and decide what abuse report is right and wrong. Sorry, that's just impractical and unpalatable.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Understandable. Thanks for responding to my request.
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