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9-Jul-13 2:04

Just what it says on the tin. I haven't received any notifications since yesterday for any replies to my posts in any of the forums.

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Nithin Sundar9-Jul-13 2:58

9-Jul-13 2:58

I'm able to receieve them fine. Did you try re-enabling the option?

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Chris Maunder9-Jul-13 2:59

9-Jul-13 2:59

Have you done all the usual (checked spam filters, checked there's no kinks in your ethernet cable, checked your computer's turned on?) I've checked your account and it all seems fine.

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Nagy Vilmos9-Jul-13 3:06

9-Jul-13 3:06

I'm receiving e-mails from elsewhere, just not CP. I've checked the settings and nowt is changed, all is correct.
There are no spam messages from you, or anyone else for that matter.
I even checked my hotmail account, with my olde e-mail, and that's fine with a couple of e-mails in today I know where forwarded.

I am confused.

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Chris Maunder9-Jul-13 3:34

9-Jul-13 3:34

I think I found it.

Your message had "E-mail me if someone replies to this message" unchecked. I've checked it. Let me know if this comes through via email.

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Chris Maunder

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Nagy Vilmos9-Jul-13 3:38

9-Jul-13 3:38

How the elephant did that change?
I've always left that checked and don't recall unchecking it. I didn't post anything around 10:30 last night did I saying someone was now 'my best mate'? Suspicious | :suss:

Anyway, thank yee sire but you'll still lose The Ashes.

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Chris Maunder9-Jul-13 3:54

9-Jul-13 3:54

We'll lose the Ashes and you've gained a Warney.

Fair's fair.

(and I'll go yell at the hack who wrote that code)

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Nagy Vilmos9-Jul-13 3:55

9-Jul-13 3:55

Chris Maunder wrote:
We'll lose the Ashes and you've gained a Warney.

On second thoughts, maybe we should swap back. Laugh | :laugh:

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Chris Maunder9-Jul-13 4:04

9-Jul-13 4:04

Too late. He's sold his place up the road from me in Melbourne (OK, 10 mins away, but I did bump into him a couple of times at our local cafe) and he's packed his mittens and is on your side of the pond already.

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Joezer BH11-Jul-13 4:28

Joezer BH

11-Jul-13 4:28

I'm getting some of the notifications hours late (some half a day late!)
So if it's related, I'd say expect a blast of notifications soon Unsure | :~

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Abuse of Power?

PB 369,7839-Jul-13 1:49

9-Jul-13 1:49

Do we really want to ban people for telling bad jokes?

Please see this post[^]which got the member banned.

Now I don't particularly like the bad jokes that blight the Soapbox but I don't think the intention of the report message button was to remove members who post them, which is what happened in this case. One poster has admitted in that thread that when he reported it he didn't think it would get the member banned, but I suspect the rest of the reporters knew that would be the result(and I reckon I could name them).

I thought that the idea when the down-voting was removed, was that if we didn't like something we should say so by replying to that member in order to educate them in the forum protocol, this has also happened in that thread but people still felt the need to remove him. The reporters will say that he has been warned before and didn't listen, but I think he is genuinely trying to fit in and his only crime is to post rubbish jokes - not really a banning criteria and a 'crime' that many others are guilty of in that forum, but they don't get banned.

When the remove power was in the hands of the admins, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have removed him, so we shouldn't remove him either. After all he marked his post with a joke icon, so members who didn't like his previous jokes could have just passed on by without reading it.

Is it worth reminding the people who reported it what the report button should actually be used for?

Pete O'Hanlon9-Jul-13 1:51

Pete O'Hanlon

9-Jul-13 1:51

I didn't think you could get rid of someone just from downvoting on messages. If you could, I'd have gone.

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Nagy Vilmos9-Jul-13 2:03

9-Jul-13 2:03

The post stands, the user has been nuked. Go figure.

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PB 369,7839-Jul-13 2:08

9-Jul-13 2:08

Nagy Vilmos wrote:
the user has been nuked

But why? As far as I can work out there are two options spammer and abusive. None of which his post fits under.

PB 369,7839-Jul-13 2:06

9-Jul-13 2:06

It's not down-voting as such as that is disabled in the Soapbox. It's people using the report button as there isn't a down-vote for them to use. Johnny J has admitted there that he reported the message but didn't want to remove the member, but that is what happened. It's suggested there that it is a bug but I don't think it is because if used on a genuine spammer i.e. the live stream ones we are getting recently then you would want the report to both remove the message and the account so that they can't repeat it.

As the message is still there, I'm assuming most people went to his profile to report him directly, which is wrong. At the end of the day I think the report button should strictly be used for genuine spammers or, more rarely, somebody comes on and starts abusing people. I believe this is what it was introduced for and not for removing people that don't fit into the clique.

Keith Barrow9-Jul-13 2:13

Keith Barrow

9-Jul-13 2:13

He always had the potential to go troll I thought, but wasn't there yet and might never have done, so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
His account was nuked (the message still stands), so it wasn't necessarily this message, perhaps he posted something somewhere else?

PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

Nithin Sundar9-Jul-13 2:24

9-Jul-13 2:24

I think he started some discussions which were met reasonably well in the Lounge (apart from those jokes). I see no reason why he could have become a troll. I think that joke topic made people report him?

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Keith Barrow9-Jul-13 2:36

Keith Barrow

9-Jul-13 2:36

Nithin Sundar wrote:
I see no reason why he could have become a troll.

You might not I do. Trolling can be more subtle than just winding people up. Some people spend real time and effort on it.
We've had several such people in the past: They start off with a few more-or-less reasonable posts, then the poor jokes start, then they become obnoxious (especially posting unwelcome jokes). Before the report button came into play, it could take days/weeks to get rid of them as they'd play a fine line between winding people up and getting banned. We had one repeat offender who always had this MO, though he normally distinguished himself by putting his location as Lebanon.

I'm not saying he was a troll (I actually didn't report him), just that he showed early signs of being one. Personally I didn't see anything that was worthy of him getting banned.

PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]

Nithin Sundar9-Jul-13 2:41

9-Jul-13 2:41

I understand what you mean and I agree with the points you explained. It's a real pain to get trolls off the site and harder for everyone when the person keeps doing it.

I felt it was unfortunate since he did make a effort to contribute by creating some good topics and even replying in them as well. That I feel, in my view, is someone who did enjoy the Lounge in a normal way.

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Nithin Sundar9-Jul-13 2:25

9-Jul-13 2:25

This is unfortunate. I hope the account is given back since this is borderline unfair.

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Chris Maunder9-Jul-13 2:50

9-Jul-13 2:50

The user has been reinstated.

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PB 369,7839-Jul-13 3:29

9-Jul-13 3:29

Thanks, but I think it is the second time it has happened to that member so maybe it doesn't cure the overall problem of people wrongly using the report facility?