Bugs and Suggestions

Chris Maunder9-Jul-13 2:50

Chris Maunder

9-Jul-13 2:50

The user has been reinstated.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

PB 369,7839-Jul-13 3:29

PB 369,783

9-Jul-13 3:29

Thanks, but I think it is the second time it has happened to that member so maybe it doesn't cure the overall problem of people wrongly using the report facility?

Pete O'Hanlon9-Jul-13 3:50

Pete O'Hanlon

9-Jul-13 3:50

PB 369,783 wrote:
I think it is the second time it has happened to that member

I have a recollection of this user trolling in the Lounge a while back, deliberately posting rubbish because he was bored. I thought he'd improved a lot since then.

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Pete O'Hanlon10-Jul-13 2:42

Pete O'Hanlon

10-Jul-13 2:42

Does he know? I'd have thought we would have seen something from him upon his reinstatement.

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SoMad9-Jul-13 15:01

SoMad

9-Jul-13 15:01

Chris didn't touch on the subject, but as far as I am concerned, it is not a bug.
If you use the red flag to report a message as Spam, the system automatically reports the member as Spammer on your behalf as well.
If you use the red flag to report a message as Abuse, the member is not reported as Abusive. As far as I can tell, the member is not even deducted any points.

I think it is obvious this behavior was put in place to quickly get rid of members that post actual spam in the forums - I am sure many members will see a spam message and report it as such, but not bother going to the profile to report the offending member directly.
The trick is to get people to red-flag posts like the one in question as Abuse and not as Spam. A few of those and the post is gone without hurting the posting member.

Soren Madsen

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

Rajesh R Subramanian9-Jul-13 19:15

Rajesh R Subramanian

9-Jul-13 19:15

I think a "report message as crap" option in addition to spam/abusive might make things clearer. Smile | :)

"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

SoMad9-Jul-13 19:31

SoMad

9-Jul-13 19:31

I happen to agree with you, but when I suggested that in The Box once, I did not sense a whole lot of support: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4533530/Re-Please-bring-back-down-voting.aspx[^]

Soren Madsen

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

Johnny J.10-Jul-13 23:06

Johnny J.

10-Jul-13 23:06

Excellent idea! Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

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Rutvik Dave10-Jul-13 2:32

Rutvik Dave

10-Jul-13 2:32

That was unfortunate.

I think enabling down-voting on Lounge might help, I think when members have nothing to express their dislike they just reporting the post/member as spam.

Johnny J.10-Jul-13 23:27

Johnny J.

10-Jul-13 23:27

Rajesh's idea of a "report message as crap" option seems like the perfect solution to me. It needn't do anything but count the number of reports, no minus points, no abuse/spam deletes or ahything like that. Just let the OP know how many people that didn't like his post...

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Rutvik Dave11-Jul-13 1:10

Rutvik Dave

11-Jul-13 1:10

Yes, that is a good idea, so if we don't want to implement something new, we can just turn on the down-voting without any minus points/deletes. just plain down-votes to tell the OP that we are not interested.

Chris Maunder11-Jul-13 1:26

Chris Maunder

11-Jul-13 1:26

You mean add back down voting?

No. If you don't like something move on. If its inappropriate flag it. If you do like it give them an up vote.

But no, I'm not going back to the days of down vote wars

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Johnny J.11-Jul-13 1:41

Johnny J.

11-Jul-13 1:41

NO not quite - like downvoting but without point deduction. Like that, it does no harm, but still lets people know that you don't approve of their post. No war.

There seems to be interest amongst the other members for a feature like that.

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Rajesh R Subramanian11-Jul-13 0:20

Rajesh R Subramanian

11-Jul-13 0:20

I think the intentions behind the current system are clear. If a message is being reported as spam, then the member is a spammer, which should in fact get them banned.

Unfortunately, incidents like this happen when people resort to reporting a message as they don't have any other means to vent their anger on an utterly nonsensical post.

But then I've also seen that incidents like this are not very frequent, and when it does happen, our members get the unintentionally closed account reinstated. This is a fair trade to ensure that the actual spammers will get kicked out by the system really quick.

I think everything is in order. Smile | :)

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Rutvik Dave11-Jul-13 1:15

Rutvik Dave

11-Jul-13 1:15

I agree, but we need something to let other know that we don't like certain threads.

Because most of the time when you reply with dislike, it tends to offend them as it's just finger pointing.

It seems, people are not learning anything from these life-learning-lessons. Big Grin | :-D

Why do people think that they need to represent themselves as either funny or wise. I just hate this nonsense. Mad | :mad:

Used License (CPOL) 1.02

mdordenart9-Jul-13 0:07

mdordenart

9-Jul-13 0:07

Hi,

I want to use a license (CPOL) 1.02

I want to use someone's code.
What should I do in my source code?

Best Regards

Michel

Re: Used License (CPOL) 1.02

Pete O'Hanlon9-Jul-13 0:19

Pete O'Hanlon

9-Jul-13 0:19

If I were you, I'd start by reading this[^] to get a general understanding of the article. Pay particular attention to the Restrictions section.

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Does star-rating work?

morzel8-Jul-13 21:47

morzel

8-Jul-13 21:47

I spend a lot of time on CP and in my opinion 1..5 star rating (voting) system should be replaced with "recommend" button.

The sad fact (recognized by many high profile websites) is that multiple-grade rating doesn't work on the internet.
Too many people click 5-star rating if they simply like an article. They don't reserve 5-star for exceptionally well written and informative pieces. This is the reason why some short or badly formatted articles end up as "excellent".

I would like to click 5-star to distinguish great articles. But by clicking 4-star I would lower the average grade of good article below the rate of some mediocre articles (that have 5 star rating because most people simply don’t give a s**t about the meaning of 1..5 grades).

If dropping old 5–star system is not an option, maybe you should replace stars with actual words like "good", "exceptionally good" etc.?

Weird and Wonderfull

vonb8-Jul-13 19:42

8-Jul-13 19:42

The Weird and Wonderfull forum seems really Weird (just 1 page and mixed up discussions)

The signature is in building process.. Please wait...

Manfred Rudolf Bihy8-Jul-13 20:04

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

8-Jul-13 20:04

Everything seemed alright with me when I just visited it. Maybe a glitch in the system.
What did it say in the lower left hand corner. I can see this:

Web01 | 2.6.130704.1 | Last Updated 9 Jul 2013

Maybe you were looking at that page when Chris and the hamsters were updating the page.

Cheers!

"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

Ron White, Comedian

vonb8-Jul-13 20:06

8-Jul-13 20:06

It still makes it. And this formum has just 2 pages. Seems strange to.

The signature is in building process.. Please wait...

Manfred Rudolf Bihy8-Jul-13 20:09

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

8-Jul-13 20:09

What does it say on the lower left hand side?

That's a simple question, isn't it?

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vonb8-Jul-13 20:12

8-Jul-13 20:12

It says this:

Last Visit: 1-Jan-00 5:00     Last Update: 9-Jul-13 3:11

The signature is in building process.. Please wait...

Manfred Rudolf Bihy8-Jul-13 21:51

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

8-Jul-13 21:51

Sorry, but this is still not it. What I'm looking for is at the absolute bottom of the page at the left hand side. Search for any of these words you find below:

Advertise | Privacy | Mobile | Last Updated | All Rights Reserved | Terms of Use

It can't be that hard to find since it is at the bottom of the page. You really can't get any lower than that.

Laugh | :laugh:

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vonb8-Jul-13 22:55