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Does anyone ever read these? I know I never do.
There was a new program on the tellybox last night starring Dave Gorman sort of doing standup - ish.
It was OKish.
Quite a large part of it was about terms and conditions and how no-one reads them apart from him, I suspect that he reads them just to try to find mistakes, which was what he managed to find on page 7 of 30 odd for the Boris Bike scheme in London.
This said that a year was 365 days or 364 in a leap year.
This was eventually changed 999 days after the scheme launched and with hundreds of thousands of transactions having taken place each one of them with people agreeing to something that was nonsense. He then revealed that each member of the studio audience had agreed to his terms and conditions when entering the studio, and these agreed his right to have sex with any of them at his discretion for up to a year after the broadcast.
All a little forced perhaps, but do you read such things? Do you write them and have you ever been tempted to slip something in that is a little evil, or even just to check to see if people are paying attention?
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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I saw it - I like DG since I read his Googlewack Adventure.
I liked the rider to his Ts&Cs that a repeat started a new twelve month period! 
On Dave, that's going to be pretty much eternal... 
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Yeah I saw this too. Agree with the OKish statement, I sort of like his stand-up routine, it's not amazingly funny but sort of geekish.
In answer to your question, no I have never read them and believe that anybody could wriggle out of them on the grounds that it is common knowledge that they are never read. I think anything important has to be highlighted, you should only read this.
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Most on-line companies would have to breach their privacy policy, if they wanted to enforce their terms and conditions.
The word to remember is "unenforceable" -- if a clause or codicil in one of these terms and conditions statements runs contrary to the law of the land, that word comes into play.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I spent the summer working in a factory while attending college.
I worked the night shift - it was 8 hrs. of mind numbingly boring work.
Part of the requirement of my job was to fill out a little form that was a one paragraph description of the night's activities. The form was technically required by each employee but it was one of those requirements that nobody enforced. However, since I was the new guy I went ahead and filled out the form.
After a month of putting down the same boring paragraph I changed it up a little.
I wrote: Spent the evening trying to keep other employees awake. I failed at doing that.
The low level secretary that read it thought it was pretty funny.
She photo-copied it and passed it around.
Within an hour of me leaving work on that day it was in the plant manager's hands.
By the time I came into work that night there had been several very intense meetings wherein every level of management between myself and the plant manager had been thoroughly reamed. As I came in the door my foreman pulled me aside. He told me that if the men I work with find out that I wrote that thing they'd murder me sometime in the night. He also told me to never fill out another one of those forms again.
Sometimes people do read stuff.
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MehGerbil wrote: He also told me to never fill out another one of those forms again.
I'd call that a success story.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Not evil, but at least one company has slipped in a "People who email us at XYZ email address will get money sent to them in the mail. This offer can be withdrawn at any time." just to see how few people actually read it. To be fair, it was GAIN software and part of an AdServer at that. So I'm not sure the $1000 would have been worth it. And it was only for the first person who sent the email.
I did have to read through what I could understand of the Google Play Developer agreement, which said that I could not use the Google Play to distribute shotgun shells in countries that have been put on the International 'Do not send dangerous things to these places' list. I'm assuming it meant plans to make them, but I'm not completely sure. I'm still trying to figure out how to include ammunition as an attachment.
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I read them for anything involving sensitive data (e.g. credit card numbers), but for most things, no.
Though I do remember finding something in the iTunes ToS a long time ago along the lines of you aren't allowed to use iTunes in a nuclear weapon...
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I only ever read them if I am asked to sign something. if it is online I don't bother on the grounds that, if there was something unreasonable and it got to court I would simply admit to not having read them, and suggest the clause was unusual enough that it should have been brought to my attention.
But it is great fun when the chap in the store wants you to sign a 5 page form to get a couple of hundred dollars interest free, and you start to read it.
When they say "no need to read it, its just a standard form" I ask why then there is a form at all? Has he read it? etc.
If they get arsey I start asking questions. they never know the answers (some make up answers or say things lik e'it probably means..."
i only do it because i am an annoying little prick. But it is funnnnnnnn!
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
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(That's an 'M')
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I'm looking to employ somebody, ideally they would have been looking for work for some time to ensure their eagerness. A fabricated tendency for a drink would be ideal as this would mean they fitted-in with the lads whilst not affecting their performance. Any ideas?
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Would they pay him enough for Gin consumption let alone travel etc.
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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That's not the expensive bit: this is Pompey we're talking about. Think of the danger money!
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PB 369,783 wrote: A fabricated tendency for a drink would be ideal
That's Nagy out of it then.
No fabrication there.
I have swilled gin with this man and he is a legend!
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
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See, even when I'm sober no one believes me.
It's enough to drive a man to drink...
speramus in juniperus
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So let me get this - your work force is made up of long term unemployed drinkers. Your organisation should be eligible for some kind of award from the Dept of Industry.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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What are you talking about?
That is the Dept of Industry!
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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That's Replacement MQOTD...
A: I've always wondered, what's the devil look like?
B: Well, there are all manner of lesser imps and demons, Pete, but the great Satan hisself is red and scaly with a bifurcated tail, and he carries a hay fork.
C: Oh, no. No, sir. He's white, as white as you folks, with empty eyes and a big hollow voice. He likes to travel around with a mean old hound. That's right.
There you go gents...
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Leslie Nielsen in Reinventing The Wheel.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Hm MQOTD is involved with author rights and you don't have right to use the name or similar to it in any kind except if your nick is V.
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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