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richcb wrote: <quote>a rifle/pistol bullet fired into the air can kill when it comes down more than a mile away...Only if shot at an angle
I believe the drag to mass ratio of a .22 bullet won't let it reach a mile, even if you shot at a 45 degree angle. Pretty much the same principle as firing straight up, but it will still be moving fast enough to kill a human if you hit the right spot. A leg hit shouldn't kill (still might) getting hit point-blank with a 30 ought 6.
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They're plenty enough to kill a pool at a half mile though. My friend is still a tad upset at his neighbor over that.
Always plan for such things when shooting at airborne targets.
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This might stop them[^]
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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How would that make any difference? I'm not familiar with PETA - it's not like PETA are a government agency, is it?
The Verve wrote: Normally, if you shot down an aircraft owned by the federal government, you'd be in trouble. But a small Colorado town named Deer Park is looking to carve out an exception, proposing a $100 bounty to any hunters who shoot down unmanned drones that appear to be "owned or operated by the United States federal government." The ordinance would also require a drone-hunting license, issued after a background check and a $25 fee.
(enz: emphasis added)
"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin
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.... appear to be
Hunters already "accidentally" shoot too many other hunters that "appear to be" deer - so they won't stop at Federal drones!
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enhzflep wrote: How would that make any difference? I'm not familiar with PETA - it's not like
PETA are a government agency, is it?
Just to be clear the law is about collecting a bounty.
If you shoot down a drone, which realistically is probably too high to shoot anyways, it is not likely that it is going to be marked in such a way that you can identify it at that range.
So basically it is just like shooting vermin, let it lie, unless it is something you can collect the bounty on.
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Dan Neely wrote: PETA is planning to snoop onharass hunters with
drones
Far as I have seen PETA is all about marketing these days and nothing else. They produce events to get media attention with no real activism ever. So they might show up with a drone over a national forest for the cameras but would back off immediately when asked about their permits.
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Apple Events[^]
The rumour mill so far:
- New thinner, lighter, smaller iPad
- Retina iPad mini, maybe just a thinner, lighter one. Maybe neither.
- OS Mavericks launched and/or released
- New Macbook Pros with Haswell.
- Mac Pros released. Maybe
- iWorkl for Cloud updates
- Potentially a touch cover for the iPad (goes along with "We still have a lot to cover"). But maybe not.
- Tim Cook being fired?! Woops - sorry - a tabloid worthy article[^] from yester-month
I also couldn't find anything about Tim Cook being an alien android death machine, nor anything about illegitimate children, Scientology scandals or anything involving rabbit suits. I tried. I really did.
My wishes
- Lighter Retina Macbook Pro 13".
- Small fixes to the eye-searing iOS7
- The "+" button on MacOS Finder windows actually expands the windows fully.
- A surprise announcement that iTunes has been taken out back and hit over the head with a shovel, and a new iHub app that actually works, doesn't lose settings, and incorporates crazy new technology like background threading on network operations is to take its place.
- Free gummy bears at all Apple stores.
- An olive-branch fix for Windows 7/8 that allows Windows to hot-swap Thunderbolt peripherals
Announcements
- Mavericks OS available today. For Free.
- Macbook Pro 13" and 15" updated. Macbook 13" thinner, lighter, cheaper, 9hrs battery. 15" uses CrystalWell chips.
- Mac Pro $2999, spec'd to the hilt, available December.
- iWork, iLife free
- New iPad (obviously). But oh dear: "iPad Air". 1lb, 7.5mm thick (C'mon guys - imperial or metric - pick one!), A7 chip, makes you a coffee in the morning. ...but no 802.11ac. MIMO instead. Why? Seems a serious oversight. Ships Nov 1. Maybe "Air" naming verifies the the rumours of a larger iPad to come. New covers, but no touch cover.
- iPad mini now retina. Available later in November. $399 with older mini going for $299.
Overall it all seemed a little rushed, in some places a little directionless or unbalanced (rush through the Macbooks, linger on Garage band - seems odd).
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
modified 22-Oct-13 14:21pm.
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The touch cover would be good.
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Chris Maunder wrote: Free gummy bears at all Apple stores.
Possible. Unlikely, but possible.
Chris Maunder wrote: A surprise announcement that iTunes has been taken out back and hit over the head with a shovel, and a new iHub app that actually works, doesn't lose settings, and incorporates crazy new technology like background threading on network operations is to take its place.
Oh come on! Get real... 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Chris Maunder wrote: An olive-branch fix for Windows
That would be same day they also announced arsenic made to look like an olive-branch.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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I was really hoping for a Mac Mini refresh - i.e. a Haswell variant and a price drop. 
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: Haswell variant
Possible
Ravi Bhavnani wrote: a price drop.
Not likely. Get Real
People becoming wiser in order to notice the stupid things they did back in the young days. This doesn't mean that they really stop doing those things. Wise people still do stupid things, only on purpose.
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Other than the decision to slap the "air" (after what leaks out of a rabid iFan's head?) moniker on their latest fondleslab; was anything in this set of announcements the least bit surprising?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Chris Maunder wrote: nor anything about illegitimate children,
That is because that is old news, about Steve Jobs dumping his first girlfriend. She had a child through him.
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The Daily Mail featured the Air Pad launch as its main cover story. Looks like they finally caught up to 'five-years-ago', like a Corporal Jones present arms.
You can rest assured, if the Mail has finally adopted the hype, it must be obsolete. Apple is finished.
Look for Google Chromebooks to take over.
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Pregnancy is not an illness and it IS sexist to suggest that Jo Swinson 'needed' a seat[^]It is now sexist to offer a woman, especially a pregnant woman, a seat just because she's pregnant? What is this world coming to?
I would have offered her my seat even if she weren't pregnant just because she is a woman. Since when is it sexist to have manners?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I agree, I think any reasonable person would of offered the lady a seat. Now I think this is due to two counts, one is mainly manners but two I'm not afraid to say I believe gentlemen should still behave as gentlemen in some aspects, opening doors, offering seats etc.
Basically political correctness went mad about ten years ago.
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer)
www.simonshugar.co.uk
"If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil
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Simon Lee Shugar wrote: Basically political correctness went mad about ten years ago
It has nothing to do with pc and everything to do with feminism. Women demanded the right to be treated equally (even though, let's face it, they rule the world anyway) and burn their bras so what do they expect? I wouldn't offer my seat to a pregnant man so why should I offer it to a woman just because she got knocked up? 
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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The image of a pregnant man makes me think of that Arnold schwarzenegger film where Arny's pregnant... I might offer him a seat, back in his day.
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer)
www.simonshugar.co.uk
"If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil
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Well, there is this guy: Thomas Beatie[^]
A better picture: Daily Fail[^]
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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Quote: I wouldn't offer my seat to a pregnant man
However it would make the Sun the following day (Non-UK CPians insert Tabloid news rag of choice!)
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Longer ago than that. In 1964 I was in Japan and took a train to Tokyo. The train was full and several older Japanese women tried to get up and give me their seat. I politely refused and kept standing (it was only about a 20 minute ride). I would have felt terrible taking their seat and having them stand.
A different world, Japan!
Dave
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(Let's use the author's reasoning) Perhaps we shouldn't make any accommodations for anyone. Why make considerations for an illness, handicap, or age? Equality is equality.
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The sad thing is, it isn't just the author. There are lots of people who agree that it is sexist.
I'm moving to Mars.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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