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Or why start formal education at all? Kids (everyone really) will learn better when they are interested in what they are learning. This school takes it to the extreme, and I like the concept enough that I've considered moving to an area that has a school with the same philosophy for when my kids start school. Until then it's playtime at home and play based preschools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxPnvJE0V2E[^]
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I've seemingly bricked my wife's 6 month old all in one HP Envy after attempting the update to Win 8.1. The update failed on restart, and the system said it needed to restore back to Win 8...which it did, and restarted and everything seemed fine. Two days later when she really needs to use it, it has turned itself off, and refuses to boot...the little dots start spinning and either just stop, or just go away, and nothing happens. Twice it has displayed a message about running a restore, but both times, it just becomes totally unresponsive.
I don't have installation media for the computer, but do have my own Win8 that I will probably try booting from to do a repair.
One of these days, I am going to stick to the plan about not working on other people's computers...including family. 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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There must be a way to launch the restore partition. Go into the bios and see.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Can you get to the advanced tool menu on boot ?
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Can't get that far...I was able to boot to my CD (win8 pro) and got to the advanced tools section.
Automatic Repair - failed
Restore to a known restore point = failed
Now it is checking for disk errors.
I will try another restore point. If that fails, I will try to boot it to Ubuntu and save what I can, then restore to factory. Grrr!!!!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I guess it is possible that it had a harddrive problem.
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Thanks for the suggestions...I was able to get it restored finally, however when it went to boot, it gave me a  'sad windows' screen (never seen that before) and provided a really great, informative error message: 'MACHINE CHECK EXCEPTION'
On to plan F. How appropriate.
Plan F = Backup anything important and restore to factory state...failed!!! I still get the error message same as above...maybe it is a hardware issue after all. Now the fun part...talking to HP about honoring the warranty.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
modified 21-Nov-13 22:47pm.
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yeah they figured that most users didn't understand them anyway so they just put up the sad face now.
I found a link where some one had that error and chased it down to a unsupported wifi card.
I don't think they still give the error code do they?
I've only seen it once myself and can't remember.
Was any different hardware added or upgraded from the original before the os upgrade ?
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I had that sickening feeling in my gut when my upgrade failed. Luckly the automatic restore worked fine. It turned out to be an issue with having my scanner plugged in. This is due to an issue with its driver (I think it is Vista vintage). The MS help site I found suggests only having having a keyboard and mouse plugged in during the upgrade. The strange thing is that I installed the driver after the upgrade and all is fine.
I wish you the best of luck.
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...an Arduino Starter kit!
Yes, a small present, but something to keep me entertained over the Christmas break.
Just spent the evening messing about with a few basics. I'm going to follow as much of the initial projects as I think I need to, and then I'm going to try and build myself either:
(a) a car that avoids walls/obstacles
(b) a car controlled by my mobile phone
Depending on how quickly I can pick it all up, I can either build myself an integrated H-Bridge, or, I can just buy an Arduino H-Bridge Shield which might save me some time, and leave the H-Bridge project for another time.
Currently downloading Atmel Studio as the Arduino IDE, although quite well thought out and nicely polished, is a bit basic as I'm used to a more Visual Studio type IDE with debugging, intelli-sense etc - which is especially useful if you've got to learn some new language (well, not a new language per se, but for functions etc it is useful).
Aahhh looking forward to it - feeling happy - only thing is now that I just need the wife to let me have some spare time...
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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Congrats there are several on here, including myself that do AVR development.
A good site if you get stuck and need help is avrfreaks[^].
Good luck
BTW the I'm working on a 4WD car now get the rest of the parts tomorrow and car start breaking out the saws and soldering iron. If I don't come out in a week call for help. 
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Nice! Thanks for the link, I will peruse that when I get a chance!
Oh, and if you don't come out in a week I'll make sure no-one disturbs you, it'll break your concentration 
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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Thanks man I appreciate it.
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I'm currently doing a rather involved Arduino project, if you have problems connecting let me know, it took me a while to get it and required editing some driver .inf files.
If you get good enough, you can participate in this: SparkFun AVC 2014[^]
I'd love to participate, but Colorado is a long drive
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Excellent! Thanks, I will.
Like I say, I'm just starting out, so have got quite a bit of messing around, playing with things to build up my knowledge before the basics become second nature and I can move onto more complicated stuff.
And as for SparkFun....hmmm...maybe a few more years...
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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Look at this[^].
An Arduino extension for Visual Studio!
Getting information off the Internet is like taking a drink from a fire hydrant.
- Mitchell Kapor
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Nice!
Will have to play with that as well, see which one is best
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote: Currently downloading Atmel Studio as the Arduino IDE, although quite well thought out and nicely polished, is a bit basic as I'm used to a more Visual Studio type IDE with debugging, intelli-sense etc - which is especially useful if you've got to learn some new language (well, not a new language per se, but for functions etc it is useful).
Which version have you got?
Atmel Studio 6 is based on the Visual Studio 2010 shell (we've done quite a bit of work on supporting the innards of it over the past year). It even comes with Visual Assist bundled.
Anna ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
Tech Blog | Visual Lint
"Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
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Yeah, I've downloaded Amtel Studio 6 and also downloaded Viso Micro - thinking that it might be the best IDE to use, but need to find some time to play around with it to explore the various features.
Trying to find some tutorials about the various IDE abilities at the moment.
(Well, I am at work, so doing it on the sly....shhh!)
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralines and dick." ~ Garth Algar
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." ~ Paul Neal "Red" Adair
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Enjoy 
Anna ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
Tech Blog | Visual Lint
"Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
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Nice one. The problem is that soon you'll be seeing Arduino-based "improvements" that could be made throughout your house... 
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The computer, it says no.  [check your clicky]
speramus in juniperus
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Clicky fixed 
Veni, vidi, caecus
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