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How?
I am sitting at a set of lights, handbrake on, in neutral.
I take 2 seconds to flick a lighter.
Done.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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And how many others light it WHILE driving? Seen others do it often enough to know it's no unusual thing.
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Probably no more dangerous than changing radio stations or checking your sat nav.
There are much greater risks on the road.
Anyway it is not about safety it is about social control.
Slice by tiny slice our freedoms are eroded until we are sheep like and unaware that we have been led into complete obedience to all forms of authority.
We do not question the losses of our freedoms until it is too late.
Then there is a violent revolution.
The one thing history teaches us is that we do not learn from history.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Dalek Dave wrote: Probably no more dangerous than changing radio stations or checking your sat nav.
True. An acquaintance of mine had a car accident as he was changing the radio station. Another driver in front of him was breaking unexpectedly and he couldn't react in time anymore.
Dalek Dave wrote: The one thing history teaches us is that we do not learn from history.
Only true enough 
Yeah. I don't meant by that, that there should be laws against everything. Not at all. I agree with you that less laws would be better. But there are too many idiots out there. And I wouldn't want to have to walk on a street knowing that half the drivers are on the phone while the other half of them is drunk or high.
Note: Don't think that I'm anti-smoking. Not at all. I'm a smoker myself. But sometimes people need to use their brains instead of following only the laws like the sheep they are.
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Nicholas Marty wrote: True. An acquaintance of mine had a car accident as he was changing the radio station. Another driver in front of him was breaking unexpectedly and he couldn't react in time anymore.
Then he was not guarding the safe distance to the car in front of him.
Hmm i wonder why its doing that......ARGHS NO STOP, ROLLBACK ROLLBACK...F*** That's how i learned to "Always Backup"!!
Dogs are man's best Friend,
Cats are man's adorable little serial killer
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I guess he meant while driving on an icy highway at 100+ mph.
Dammit, were did I leave my common sense again?
Clean-up crew needed, grammar spill... - Nagy Vilmos
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I was once in the back of a car when an end discarded from the front window came back in my window and down the inside of my t-shirt.
And a former colleague was forever telling the story of his ex wife driving along with her sunroof open and a discarded cigarette from somewhere in front landing in her hair and setting fire to it. I think telling the story helped to cheer him up.
Smoking whilst driving is bad, bad for anyone else in the car, bad for anyone who has to smell anyone else in the car, bad for the environment with all the discarded ends, bad because drivers get discarded lighting up, distracted when looking to flick the ash somewhere, distracted when flicking the end out of the window.
Yet I don't know how I feel about legislating against dickheads.
Won't somebody think of the children!
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Dalek Dave wrote: My only wish, as a smoker, is that I should be treated as an adult.
There should be licensed premises where one can smoke.
Adult only, with people who smoke working there, and no access for children or non-smokers.
My wife smoked.
She worked in a pub.
She often needed to be nebulised at the end of her shift at the weekends.
After the smoking ban she didn't need that once.
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I used to have to put on old clothes when I went to the pub, and change out of them immediately I got home because the smell of smoke was so disgusting. I am very happy not to have to do that any more.
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what next I ask, if this carries on they will stop us sending the young blighters up the chimney to clean the soot
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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My wife and I used to smoke in the car when our kids were small. But it put them both off the idea.
I can see why it is a good idea to ban it, but then we should also ban all cars, factories, power stations, etc., etc. Oh, and while we are at it, why not ban all politicians and their placemen?
Veni, vidi, abiit domum
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: while we are at it, why not ban all politicians and their placemen?
Don't think you will get too many dissenters there...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Should be banned.
In fact tobacco should be banned. Period.
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Being an ex-smoker myself I have mixed feelings about the privacy issues but I understand the ruling.
Second had smoke is proven to be detrimental to ones health so I think it will be a good thing but will they enforce it?
Oddly enough my ex and I were both smokers, she still is and we have 3 kids and none of them smoke?
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See Dalek Dave's post above.
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It makes me feel very uneasy. I don't think many people would argue that smoking in a confined space with anyone else is a good thing. People shouldn't do it - but should it be illegal?
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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For the sake of those who wish to preserve their right to poison children (or others) I point out that it's already illegal in UK law:
Quote: "Whosoever shall unlawfully and maliciously administer to or cause to be administered to or taken by any other person any poison or other destructive or noxious thing, with intent to injure, aggrieve, or annoy such person, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable . . . to be kept in penal servitude . . ."
Offences against the Person Act (1861)
Phil
The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.
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OriginalGriff wrote: what do you think?
I think it's a good idea to protect children from being force-fed carcinogens.
/ravi
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I should think it would be OK if the child lit up first.
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I've ever tried to smoke when i was in senior middle school, however at last i dropped the cigarette to the trash because i feel very dizzy when i smoke it.
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For those UKians of a certain age there was a period in time back in the early 80's when the PC was just beginning its rise to ubiquity.
The BBC entered the fray with the BBC Computer Literacy Project, a national education program to enlighten and inform people about computers.
At the heart of this lay two important milestones.
Firstly the BBC Microcomputer (Actually quite a good, robust and serious machine) and the main arena for the education, a series of Television Programmes starting with "The Computer Programme"[^].
These were hosted by Ian McNaught-Davis.
A genial, avuncular type who took the nation through what computers are, how they work and what they could do for you.
And today, he died at the age of 85.
For a period of about three or four years he was synonymous with UK computer literacy and I am sure many of us here will remember him.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Aww nuts, I like him! I do remember my Dad saying (at the time) I don't really see how a computer would help me (he was a Civil Engineer!) 
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A total waste of sheep...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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