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Mark_Wallace wrote: Evangelical anti-everything-fun campaigners can't have that, can they?
Why not?
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Mark_Wallace wrote: What you need to remember is that drinking two glasses of wine per night is an extremely healthy thing to do.
If your health goal is to die young from liver failure, sure, go for it. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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two glasses of wine / night == liver failure? I'd like to see the demographics of wine consumption in France...
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Is there any evidence that alcohol consumers live longer and healthier lives than non-alcohol consumers?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: alcohol consumers live longer and healthier lives than non-alcohol consumers
Put that quote into google.
Or just do the Maths:
What is one of the major causes of early death? Heart disease.
What is a major cause of heart disease? Arteries clogged with fat.
What does alcohol do? It breaks down fats -- In.The.Bloodstream.
What is another major cause of early death? Stress-related afflictions.
What is one of the effects of alcohol? In small to moderate amounts, it calms you down (and a recent study has demonstrated that the effect is even greater if you're a complete dipsomaniac, but I'm not willing to try that out personally).
What is a major health problem caused by alcohol? Liver trouble.
How much alcohol do you have to consume to get liver trouble? A shipload/week (!= small to moderate).
What is another health problem affected by alcohol? High blood pressure.
How much alcohol do you have to consume to get blood pressure problems? More than a small to moderate amount.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Right. 
I could also lose weight by chopping off my leg. Doesn't make it a good idea.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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... and I wonder what bright spark considered the budget implications of this: cost of an expensive drug + loss of customs duty revenue. It looks like income tax rates are on the rise again!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Now that's the funny part 
In California, land of the twilight zone, they've been paying for their children's health care programs by way of tobacco taxes. Along comes the "we must teach people the evil of tobacco" crowd. The govt was shocked into hysteria when the antismoking campaign started reducing revenue. Doh!
Also in the US, many of the roads are maintained via gasoline taxes. Biggest concern at the moment? Electric cars. Well, duh.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I'm still waiting for them to invent a drug for stupidity. Maybe it could include a contraceptive as well.
Marc
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I installed Virtual Box last night and created a VM with Windows 10 Technical Preview. It seems OK - the desktop looks familiar and the Start button is back albeit with added "live" tiles.
Some of the apps (Finance and Weather for instance) have this odd sideways scroll thing going on. Its kind of jarring on a desktop.
Multiple desktops is nice but probably should have been built-in years ago.
I still don't like the total flatness and "blockiness" of it all. Much prefer Aero glass. If I'm going to sit in front of a box all day its nice if the box isn't butt ugly. Flat blocks might work OK on a small screen but on the big screen they're just bland.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: I still don't like the total flatness and "blockiness" of it all. Much prefer Aero glass. If I'm going to sit in front of a box all day its nice if the box isn't butt ugly. Flat blocks might work OK on a small screen but on the big screen they're just bland.
The good thing is they let you give feedback. Although with that said they totally ignored the feedback about the start screen and aero in the windows 8 beta.
John
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I totally agree and I didn't see anything that would make me want to upgrade from 7. Sorry uSoft if you continue on this road I can see another 8 on the way.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta
Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead?
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Mike, I love 8 (and 8.1), but then I do have a touch screen! I wouldn't want it at work (where I don't). It took a little adjustment, but it was amazing how quickly I was poking a non-touch screen and trying to work out why it wasn't responding.
I now find the desktop clunky, but I do appreciate why it's making a comeback in Wen. Swiping a finger to switch apps is neat, although not so much when it doesn't read my mind (Windows 20?) and switch to the right one!
On the multiple desktop front, I've used GoScreen for years: good that I won't need it anymore, but sad that Andrei Guryanov's great little tool will no longer have a market.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Windows should not look or work the same on all platforms, if I don't have a touch screen what good is swiping? And as others have said the boxy look might look good on a touch screen but on a desktop IMHO it looks like sh*t.
PhilLenoir wrote: although not so much when it doesn't read my mind (Windows 20?) and switch to the right one!
If they last that long.
I understand what you are saying and I am sort of agreeing but I just don't want ot spend as many hours in front of a screen that, to me I hate!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta
Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead?
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Mike Mullikin wrote: I still don't like the total flatness and "blockiness" of it all. Much prefer Aero glass.
Totally Agree
Mike Mullikin wrote: Some of the apps (Finance and Weather for instance) have this odd sideways scroll thing going on. Its kind of jarring on a desktop.
I kinda like it, but only if I'm scrolling it with a mouse wheel. At least they were smart enough to change the mouse wheel to scroll horizontally.
CPallini wrote: You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him.
:Smile:
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Shelby Robertson wrote: I kinda like it, but only if I'm scrolling it with a mouse wheel. At least they were smart enough to change the mouse wheel to scroll horizontally.
Just seemed counter-intuitive to me and the jarring part was the horizontal screen motion caused by the vertical mouse wheel rotation when that's always caused a vertical screen motion before. But then again maybe I'm just old... 
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Multiple desktops?! Is that Linux had years ago?
Can't cope with that. My brain is strictly calibrate to a single desktop and I just end up wondering what the hell is going [edit] on.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Apple added it to OS X a few years ago. I use it on my iMac (27") every once in a while but not very often. Probably more useful on a laptop.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Much prefer Aero glass.
I prefer UI's that do not change over marketing-reasons. The Win311 common controls are still recognizable by the users, without the need of re-schooling them to teach how to manipulate the latest widget.
I do not care about the color of the hammer, I care about the handle and how it does its job.
Mike Mullikin wrote: they're just bland.
Here, let me put a nice pink ribbon on your hammer 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I appreciate the front-line report, Mike. I'll get around to trying it someday ... when I know that Start8 can de-claw it in the same way it does 8/8.1.
The thought occurs to me that WinX is not being designed for the likes of geeks us.
But, I admit to some fascination in the announcement of keyboard cut-and-paste in the Console window as if that were some big honking deal. Arguably, that's geeky enough for ?
« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant
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Well, your post inspired me to do the same thing - downloaded VirtualBox (had used VM Workstation in the past - need to get that back). For whatever reason, VirtualBox with When felt sluggish - mouse just didn't have the same snap. Might be a prelim When thing, not sure.
Overall, I'm looking for the point of When. Fine 8 and 8.1 introduced the notion of touch screen support, but I really don't use that. I guess any upcoming development project might - but for the moment - yawn. Windows 7 meant no Vista plus stability. What does When bring?
For my desktop, I don't like the flatness...
Multiple desktops? Already have them.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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BMW this morning announced a recall of all 3 Series models from the last seven years, amid reports that owners are being forced to drive like dicks for reasons not yet ascertained.
* might be a parody, might not.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: being forced to drive like dicks
I also read that this problem is international.
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They have cause and effect backward.
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