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den2k88 wrote:
You can't possibly figure out my reaction at a Dante Alighieri quote - in my own language
You are so right ! I wonder if anyone who is not living in pre-Renaissance early 14th. century Italy can really know the original power of those words, their challenge ... by being written in a synthesis of Tuscan, Latin, and other dialects, rather than the "high culture" academic/religious Latin ... to the rigid definition of poetry, and literature, maintained by the Medieval "spiritually valorised" itestatus quo.

And, the problem of translation: well, in Dante's own words: "Nothing which is harmonized by the bond of the Muse can be changed from its own to another language without destroying its sweetness."

Here are the translations of the opening tercet of Purgatorio by three of the most noted English translators of Dante:

Sayers' translation :

"Midway this way of Life we're bound upon,
I woke to find myself in a dark wood,
Where the right road was wholly lost and gone"

Longfellow translation :

"Midway upon the journey of our life
I found myself within a forest dark,
For the straightforward pathway had been lost."

Mandelbaum translation :

"When I had journeyed half of our life's way,
I found myself within a shadowed forest,
for I had lost the path that does not stray."
« I am putting myself to the fullest possible use which is all, I think, that any conscious entity can ever hope to do » HAL (Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic computer) in "2001, A Space Odyssey"

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