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I'm not a Vegas-style gambler, nor do I run any copies of VS 2013 on a 64-bit OS, but I'd wager that if you ARE running it on a 64-bit box, checking for the presence of an "*32" entrained to the devenv.exe in Task Manager, has something to do with the speed ...
Do not reply to this post. Please.
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RedDk wrote: Do not reply to this post. Please.
You had to say that...
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RedDk wrote: Do not reply to this post. Please. Okay. I won't.
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RedDk wrote: Do not reply to this post. Please.
Why, what will happen if I do?
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I'm all for this game!
Pete, where's Nagy and Griff?
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Many operations are done in background in VS2013 so it load faster. But I thing it depends a lot on extension that you load as some might required that all projects are loaded effectively destroying improvement made by VS team.
Background loading effectively reduce startup time. For example, if you don't have any designer open, then VS2013 won't load them at that point. It will however take a bit more time the first time you open the designer.
Philippe Mori
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I think 2008 was the last usable version.
At work I use 2012 (Ultimate) because I do a lot of SSIS.
But at home I have 2010 (Express) and I'm thinking of digging through my box of disks to see whether or not I can find 2008 (Professional).
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If I remember correctly VS6.0 has always been way faster than anything after it.
Anyway, check out the history of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio#Visual_Studio_2008[^]
VS2010 was built with the goal of making everything faster and moving it to WPF, while forcing WPF to improve by dog-fooding VS on top of it. It ended up with some fast parts and some really slow parts, slow overall, but service packs fixed a bunch of those issues.
For me in ASP.net and C# land, I'd say it seems to be getting faster, but then performance of almost any app hasn't mattered since I've moved to using SSDs.
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[opinion]
Rarely do newer software versions get faster than their predecessor. This seems to be the trend ever since MS rolled all of their major programming languages into a single suite.
[/opinion]
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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I agree with your sentiment for the most part.
I found VS2010 completely unusable. Even more so when I had visual assist installed.
I use both VS2012 and vs2013. Their speed degradation is not noticeable to me compare to VS2010. Also, I haven't found the need to install visual assist for these versions.
I only work in C++. For what it's worth, The C++ support has gotten much better; possibly enough for me to be able to overlook any speed issues.
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For me every new version of VS has been faster than the old one.
But that's because I install it on a new computer.
I have once and once only done an upgrade, and I will never do that again.
Always clean installs for me.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.
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Out of curiosity, if you are using 2013, do you have the Azure SDK(s) installed? (I installed them for a project that never happened and now I wonder if they may be causing some of the thrashing, particularly the storage emulator.)
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2013 yes, but no azure.
Only issue is that it's hanging the processes on the local IIS. Haven't found the reason for that yet.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Any organization is like a tree full of monkeys. The monkeys on top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. The monkeys on the bottom look up and see nothing but assholes.
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Joe Woodbury wrote: using 2013, do you have the Azure SDK(s) installed?
Joe, I do (VS2013 Ultimate on multiple set-ups) and have no issues. However all set-ups are pretty "high end" (ssd's, large RAM, high end processor, etc...)
I don't get any noticeable change in experience from, say VS 2012.
I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly
"I have sexdaily. I mean dyslexia. Fcuk!"
Driven to the arms of Heineken by the wife
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Joe Woodbury wrote: (I know more than one place that has refused to switch to 2013 for various
reasons, including performance. I switched only because of Qt support.)
If I'm not mistaken, VS 2010 already supports Qt (if support == Qt plugin).
The console is a black place
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It does, but 2013 let me get the correct pre-built DLLs without the hassle.
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A lot depends on what sub-windows you have open, because if each one is updating itself every time you move the mouse, it'll eat a lot of processing time/threads.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Every time I hear my ghosts-of-youthful-exuberance whinging piteously in the basement of my limbic system, whimpering that they never have any fun any more, accusing me of becoming a dour old man, something of a hermit, a little like Howard Hughes without the money, Mormons, or mysophobia ...
And I start feeling that melancholy which is perhaps standard-issue during that stage of life when sleep, and the telomeres, get shorter, and the water gone under the bridge becomes shallower, allowing the skeletons in memory to clack in an ominous syncopation as their bones are dashed again-and-again against the rocks of anguish-past that will not let bygones be bygones ...
Science to the rescue ! "Shaping the oral microbiota through intimate kissing" [^] (complete article).
"Mouth-to-mouth contact has been observed in a wide variety of animals, including fish, birds, and primates and serves a range of functions, including the assessment of physical abilities and the acquirement of food. However, intimate kissing involving full tongue contact and saliva exchange appears to be an adaptive courtship behavior unique to humankind and is common in over 90% of known cultures, as reported in [1] and references herein." Living vicariously through the adventures of these brave pioneers who waded into the wetware wilderness of kissy-kissy with biological assays, and specially goosed drinking yogurt, was ... just compelling !
And, how wonderful that an all too typical so-human-male legend-in-his-own-mind quantitative fudge of hank-of-pank frequency was discovered:
"Strikingly, 74% of the men reported higher intimate kiss frequencies than the women of the same couple, resulting in a male average of 10 and a female average of five intimate kisses per day (Additional file 3). This probably results from male over reporting, as previously noted in an analysis of self-reports on sexual behavior, including number of partners and frequency of intercourse, in particular among unmarried couples [8]. One report of an average of 50 intimate kisses per day over the last year (Additional file 3) was according to the opinion of the authors unrealistically high, not in agreement with the reported time to latest kiss of 18 h and showed a large discrepancy with the self-reported kiss frequency of his partner of eight intimate kisses per day." Now begone is woe-is-me for Science has restored my equanimity !
«If you search in Google for 'no-one ever got fired for buying IBM:' the top-hit is the Wikipedia article on 'Fear, uncertainty and doubt'» What does that tell you about sanity in these times?
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The oral cavity has two main types of surfaces for microbial colonization: non-shedding surfaces (teeth) and shedding surfaces (mucosa),
Well, Gollie! No wonder I keep a-gettin' cavities ... the plaque just dudn't shed off'n my "non-shedding surfaces" after all.
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BTW: Your post was a most delightful read. Nice composition.
modified 17-Nov-14 19:17pm.
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... and then this[^].
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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My wife was looking at making this the other day, and I know in my heart of hearts it'll turn out the same way or worse...
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Cthulhu Santa as done by the Simpsons animators.
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FWIW: I recently had to replace one of my 24" 1920x1200 monitors for a 27" 1920x1080.
I hate it. Even though it's bigger, I really miss those extra 120 rows of pixels.
[Edit] At least what you're getting is an actual upgrade. That should be pretty sweet. I almost went for a 4K 29" monitor, but I found the text, unless rescaled, was just too small at this size.
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