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No, this[^].
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Chris Maunder
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That's the one I thought of immediately. Also of many late nights at work playing on the PCs that had enough horse power to play the game decently.
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What if votes placed by a gold or platinum member wouldn't be removed at all, regardless of high votes? I believe that could level the situation and votes from these members are more likely to be, how should I say, valid...
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This wouldn't solve the issue with the given article. They were mainly low rep votes.
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Chris Maunder
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Why was it deleted though? It looks like a decent article, lots of effort, screenshots, code samples and detailed explanation. 40,000 views since December. 2000 code-sample downloads and 50 bookmarks. Can't have been bad enough to have got deleted surely? 
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His member profile says Legend even though his Article count is now 0. Should that be fixed or are you freezing his last known status?
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Hi CodeProject team,
I am always searching for help and stuff on this site, and i love getting instant help from the contributors.
The only lag here is the rendering of webpages on mobile browser, so I would really appreciate if you'd come up with an app that works over my android mobile, so that i can stick to studying/learning on-the-go as well.
Kindly consider this as well.
Thanks & Regards,
Shashank Saxena
(New Delhi)
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Shashank, this is something that should be coming soon. A certain member of the community will be writing a mobile version to work on Android, iOS and Windows Phone.
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OK - so nobody will ever be happy with the voting system, but how about this suggestion:
"Force" anyone reading an article to actively decide not to vote.
If they leave the page without voting, pop up and tell 'em "Thanks for reading, your feedback will really be appreciated. You can vote 1-5 or N/A - where N/A means this really wasn't appropriate for my needs or IO landed here by mistake.
Personally I would default the vote to 3 - but the N/A readers might just accept that which would skew the ranking so it may be better to default to N/A - but making it easy to vote (like maybe 5 buttons) would be imperative - with a text box for any comments (which, I suppose, could be mandatory under certain circumstances)
If everyone is forced to vote this would hopefully go some way to getting a more accurate feel of how useful/good the article is?
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This will generate a lot of uninformed votes from those who go to an article via search, scan the first few lines, and then leave when they realise it's not what they were after.
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Chris Maunder
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True - but if they are all "N/A" votes - effectively a no-vote - then no change - but I would think it would also generate more votes in general which would help the "my mates all voted 5" situation
If (like me) your first thought is that it would hinder the awesome articles (like mine  ) well, I'm not sure that's the case - a user taking the option to change from N/A to a vote would at least be thinking about what they are voting for - and if that brings the votes down a bit then that's democracy at work!
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Obviously I'm concerned about your awesome articles. That's really all this discussion comes down to, right?
My issue with a flood of N/As is that popular (by search engine standards) articles will have their ranking pulled towards 3.0. That's not exactly fair or accurate. Or desirable.
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Chris Maunder
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The N/A wouldn't count as a vote 'score' - so its the same as just closing the page without voting - but just gives that little push toward actually making an effort.
(just thought too, one should not be able to bookmark or download without voting!
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Ah, so a prompt, a nag, more than anything.
Hmmm. Interesting.
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Chris Maunder
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I like the idea, but I would change "N/A" to "I don't feel informed enough to vote yet" or something along those lines.
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Yes - I agree - needs to be explained.
Some wordsmith needs to come out with a succint one-liner that sums up all the legit reasons not to vote, that pushes the user to vote, but doesn't make them feel bad if they genuinely don't want to...
"Yo! Just not my thang, bro'" maybe?
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I saw your post in my inbox & thought it was a CCC!
Yes - as I posted elsewhere today, when I am looking for some information, I might find an article, read it, then get off and use the information - forgetting to vote at all - so that nag would make me do it
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Would it remember you already voted?
Also, one of the reasons I so rarely vote is that, while I can recognize that an article is bad (and I report them so), I usually don't feel qualified to declare an article good, so I leave it up to others who know the topic better. I'd be hitting N/A on everything or, better yet, just closing the tab.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Would it remember you already voted?
Yes - but allow a vote to be changed.
I agree with your reasons for not voting somewhat - but not taking the trouble to vote on an article you have actually read is "bad" - your vote should (IMHO) reflect how well you thought the article explained itself to you
It is, after all, your vote.
I try to vote on every article I read these days - but I confess I sometimes just go off elsewhere and forget - something like what I suggest would remind me to take the time to think about it and cast my vote.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: I leave it up to others who know the topic better.
I can see where you are coming from - but isn't that like not voting for a politician because you think others know better than you - whereas in fact the ones that are voting are "not necessarily those best informed"? So the voting score is worse for your lack of input.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: I can see where you are coming from - but isn't that like not voting for a politician because you think others know better than you - whereas in fact the ones that are voting are "not necessarily those best informed"? So the voting score is worse for your lack of input.
I agree with that.
I have noticed it when voting for the monthly competition. There are articles that have a good score and a a mid to high amount of votes, where I say... OK, I am not really fit in this thema, but I don't feel like it deserves it.
There are other times where I have being looking for some information. I come to articles where the score is high and I have read them just to say... what a time loss  
I find the system is very good, the use of it is what needs to be improved. And that is quite difficult to be solved in the server side.
In the old times (or currently still by some members):
- I vote 5 if it is well written, if it says me something I didn't know and says it in a way I can understand and so on
- Maybe voting 3 for articles that are not bad, where it is easy to see that the author has invest a lot of work, but didn't get the good direction or there are performance / security issues that can be solved with a bit more work.
- I vote 1 for articles where it is easy to see that the biggest goal of the author was just to "publish in CP" and not to teach or to share something useful / cool.
But nowadays it seems more like:
I give 5 because it is politically correct and maybe afterwards I get a 5 from them.
I give 5 because I have found a buggy version to do "copy + paste" in my project and it more or less does what I need and it saves me some self-work and my boss thinks "wow, he is fast"
I give 5 because it is a "friend" of mine
Sad
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: isn't that like not voting for a politician
No, this this isn't that important.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: this isn't that important.
Taking CodeProject as a microcosm, I think it is. CP relies on its reputation as a source of quality information - accurate appraisal of articles is what helps drive people via search engines to the best articles, and CP's customers are its raison d'etre as it derives income from advertising (I believe - or maybe Chris is just an eccentric multi-millionaire...)
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I prefer a "Article is useful" vote, and nothing else.
Once voted as such, it cannot be undone.
This would solve all of the voting problems we have. Reputation points would be based on the rep of the user voting on the article (like it is now). The existing votes can easily be translated, such that 4 or 5 votes would be considered a vote for "useful", and 1-3 would be removed altogether.
A system such as this should eliminate most - if not all - of the whining from article authors.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Reputation points would be based on the rep of the user voting on the article (like it is now). The existing votes can easily be translated, such that 4 or 5 votes would be considered a vote for "useful", and 1-3 would be removed altogether.
A system such as this should eliminate most - if not all - of the whining from article authors.
Then we would end having overinflated scores in articles that don't even deserve it.
If something like that has to be done... then I would remove the full vote system. The indicators that I currently use to see about the popularity are not the votes (since the system is a bit ill), but the downloads and the bookmarks.
Without votes... Problem with rep hunters, problem with poor quality articles being upvoted by minions or puppets and some other would be solved at once
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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