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We are talking live TV here. Are you suggesting there should be a time delay whilst facts are being checked? Or how are you suggesting that the editor get involved? I agree, BTW, that the interviewer should have been incredulous about some of the interviewees' statements.
PhilLenoir wrote: I refute bias on my part
Accepted.
PhilLenoir wrote: entire Murdoch organization
Hmm. Wouldn't know, personally.
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You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Of course it's a problem with Fox News, they employ this dimwit.
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Most news organizations employ dimwits. So the question is why is Fox News singled out when they're no more or less guilty as any other organization?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: why is Fox News singled out
Because they are the channel that transmitted this guy's ridiculous comments. I am not sure why that upsets you so much.
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Because nobody makes similar pronouncements ridiculing MSNBC when it broadcasts similar asinine statements by left-wingers.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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It's a basic tenet of (good) organizations that the higher levels accept the blame for what goes wrong while passing praise for what goes right to the lower levels.
(Bad organizations do it the other way around of course.)
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Agreed. But we're talking about outside criticism here. Why the bias against FNC?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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What bias? One of their 'experts' made some totally stupid comments, so they are due a measure of fair criticism.
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The bias comes in the form of only knocking FNC for such and also for requiring editorial intervention during live TV.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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And I say again: how is that bias? It is justified criticism, based on facts.
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Oh, good grief. 
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Isn't the SoapBox the place to go when you just "have to go" to share lunacy of the religious or political flavor ?
«What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning» Werner Heisenberg
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Yes, but is this really religious or political? I agree that anti-Fox News-ism is sorta religious in nature.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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BillWoodruff wrote: Isn't the SoapBox the place to go when you just "have to go" to share lunacy anything of the religious or political flavor ?
FTFY
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Bill, I'm not trying to have a go at political or religious beliefs. You are correct, that would be the place to go for such a thing.
I posted this here because I find it hilarious. I'm amazed that anyone can find any religious of political bias in the post.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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PhilLenoir wrote: I posted this here because I find it hilarious. I'm amazed that anyone can find any religious of political bias in the post.
I find this as disingenuous as the original post: are you claiming you were actually unaware that in posting a statement like this, in this Forum, that it would provoke political and religious response and debate on a forum like this ?
That for some Fox News is gospel while CNN is anti-gospel, and vice-versa ?
If so, how I wish I could enjoy the blessings of such naivete, for I have yet to see a sacred cow I didn't want to tip-over for the sheer joy of contrariness 
«What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning» Werner Heisenberg
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Bill, yes I am.
I'm not a fan of CNN either. We Brits have a very robust sense of humour and that is exactly what I'm projecting here. This story would be tantamount to a non US news source stating something like "If you aren't openly carrying an automatic weapon and wearing an anti-government badge in Montana you'd be shot".
The story was truly preposterous and well worthy of being ridiculed. It is at about the broadcast media equivalent of a National Enquirer story. That was, and still is, my perspective.
I'm confused and slightly troubled that anyone should attach themselves to a media channel in the way you describe. I have no idea who made the quote "When we stop laughing, we're in trouble", but that's pretty much how I feel. I'm not suggesting that making fun of Fox is as dangerous as making fun of Islam, but there's obviously a spectrum of intolerance.
My post was not a trolling attempt and your assertion that my original post and my response were disingenuous assumes facts not in evidence. I'm pretty certain that this is the first time in my life that I've been accused of such. I believe that I'm open and forthright, which does mean that I upset people from time-to-time, even though I don't go out of my way to do so. Neither am I left wing. I also love tipping at sacred cows, but I truly had no idea that anyone held Fox (or CNN) as one. Perhaps, as a naturalized Canadian I should understand the American psyche better, but clearly in this case I don't have a clue.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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PhilLenoir wrote: I had to share this lunacy from Fox News
Nice... Redundancy and an oxy-moron in the same sentence fragment. 
Seriously, though... Does anyone with half a brain take Fox News seriously these days?
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Ian Shlasko wrote: Does anyone with half a brain take Fox News seriously these days
I thought they were the aiming group.
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Seriously?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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I would place Fox ahead of any other major network for honest reporting. The outright lies promulgated by CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC and other MSMs are unbelievable. Fox does its share, of course, for that's what sells advertising. But they don't go out of their way to promote pure drivel to suck up to the current administration like all the other seem to do. But none of them - Fox included -is worthy of being used as a primary source of information. A talking head with a sound bite is worth a thousandth word. I like my news written, and competently reviewed.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Is "redundant oxymoron" ipso facto oxymoronical, as well as recursive, then ?
If one asserts that adjective-X and object-Y is an oxymoron, does that imply object-Y can also exist in a state Z where adjective-X does not apply ? Or, must oxymoronicism involve an absolute assertion that object-x's adjective-y is always antinomical ?
Take the classic oxymoron attributed to Ronald Reagan, "peacekeeper missile;" does it not assert that it is an oxymoron only because the noun, "missile," can never have the attribute "peacekeeper" in ordinary usage ?
But, if one asserts "Fox News' lunacy" ... which I interpret as a noun-adjective ordering of "lunatic Fox News" ... is an oxymoron, does one then assert that "Fox News" in ordinary usage can never have the attribute "lunatic" ?
I opine that if the intent of the claimer-of-oxymoronical status is to equate said News service with lunacy as an immutably constant relationship, then the statement is not an oxymoron, but, merely, redundant.
However, if it is, indeed, an oxymoron, then is it an oxymoron of a special nature; a meta-oxymoron, or recursive oxymoron ?
More research is needed.
«What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning» Werner Heisenberg
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Does anyone with half a brain take ANY mainstream news media organization seriously?
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