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Kent Sharkey wrote: your fridge
Came with the apartment. And it's pretty old; it ought to call the dump to be hauled away.
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[1] Improvement to quality of life is too marginal
[2] It is not a norm that manufacturers of home appliances expose the control interface through Wifi/Bluetooth/Zigbee/ZWave
[3] Security is also an issue. The kid next door may be adding too much sugar to your coffee.
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Reality.
If you are to buy a new appliance, would you pay $100 more for some feature that requires compatibility with all some other appliances?
Show me a use-case where I would want to spend the money.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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For me there are different reasons.
1) Not all of us are in America.
By this I mean that many nations don't have widespread broadband Internet access, for example in order to have an Internet connection where I live it took me 8 years - I got the connection in 2014. Before I had to use GB-limited HSDPA pendrives, which were limited to GPRS speed due to low area coverage. Imagine a house connected at 20 kbps...
2) Privacy.
Maybe, I say maybe, I would like to be one of the few to know what's in my fridge. I'm not braindead enough to not know how to take care of my groceries. And why should I have a connected laundry-washer? It just doesn't make sense.
On this matter I recently bought a high-end BlueRay player and it automatically connects to my wifi - at least, it tries, since I removed the connection parameters. I decide when and how it should connect.
3) Usefulness.
They have none. Maybe the connected air-conditioner can be useful, but not enough to have security issues and spending good money on it.
Geek code v 3.12
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I would prefer things ("hardware") with ability to run some of universal script, and also open API on what it can do (with library included). It would have some default options (factory settings) available for people who like it as it is. But it might be moddable by Internet modders (or me.. programmer) to create all kinds of crazy things. Like to turn on lights when clocks turn certain time in the morning and also start coffee machine if some conditions are fulfilled. Programmable open hardware. These preprogrammed one function (or choice of few usually completely useless or boring) supposedly "smart" things are not for me. I want to program (and debug) my home completely. It would be so much fun.. .. for me at least. 
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Me
I don't like it
So you can't have it. 
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That's a trick question, because it's already here.
The only thing is it's not "The Unified Internet of Interoperable and Artificially Intelligent Things" (UIoIaAIT)
-New Orleans uses a small mesh network to create a private network to administer and monitor their traffic cams.
-All of the integrated Smart Homes.
-Amazon.coms automated robot order fulfillment factories.
The most successful application has been as the Intranet of Things.
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Listen schoolers and newbs alike, I've got 36 years of experience working with computers (since the Heathkit) and here's what my equally geeky girlfriend and I can tell you from personal experience:
Absolutely nothing is holding back the "Internet of Things". As a matter of fact it seems to be doing the opposite, holding back nothing but security and privacy, and creating according to an article I read recently, "smart" this's and that's's are rapidly increasingly becoming unwitting unsecured access points into personal and corporate networks. I mean anyone driving around with an Android looking at the list of network names that appear rather often can see the good number of routers named "Thermostat #7" or "HP Wireless Printer" or even sometimes "Soda Vending Machine #xxxx", etc.
I mean face it fellow geeks, given the current miserably deplorable state of the computing industry right now - blatant documented unfettered mass distributions of abominations of malware being sold and proliferated to unknowing, innocent public citizens by rogue constitutional-scoffing agents of the State known as Google, Facebook, Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T, T-Mobile, Samsung, ZTE, Motorola, HP, Adobe, Anroid, iOS not to mention organized crime networks (including advertising agencies), the NSA, the ruthless and spineless foreign "cyberterrorwar" governmental divisions and the ones who if they are so worried about being Anonymous then they probably should either go ahead and grow a pair of balls, show their f^cking faces and walk their talk or just get the f^ck off of the Internet period and seriously rethink their lives.
A computer to me is rapidly becoming a standalone desktop with no networking hardware, no hard drive, a read-only version of Linux running off of the DVD drive and a USB-port for a USB-powered pencil sharpener to sharpen the pencil that I will use on a a piece of paper to record any data or perform any kind of mathematical computation or write any kind of composition. A secure mobile phone is the fact of knowing how annd where you can let somebody know that you would like to meet them in person to grab a cup of coffee or a scone and catch up on each other.
Forget firewalls, AV tools, encryption, or any proper procedure, protocol, provision, etiquette, decorum - any of it - the Internet of Things is an Internet of Bullf^ckery.
Here's a few articles to sour your stomach with:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-microsoft-store-a-wretched-hive-of-scams-and-fake-apps/[^]
http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-triples-chrome-bug-bounty-rewards-to-15000/[^]
http://www.cso.com.au/article/564069/extortionists-becoming-more-helpful-new-ransomware-generation-bows/?utm_medium=www.cso.com.au&utm_source=article_body_related_article[^]
Cyberransomeware? This is what we have to look forward to in an Internet of Things? I'm ready to do a reverse cannonball into Walden's Pond myself... Who's with me...?
"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute
"Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon
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It's been shut down for 14 years now
Trojan Room Coffee Machine[^]
(The only IoT worth having)
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Heheh nice!
"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute
"Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning. - gavindon
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Could there be another Pluto-like object out in the far reaches of the Solar System? How about two or more? Only because I like typing (and saying), "trans-Neptunian"
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Did they check near Uranus?
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You sir, win one Internet today. ![Java | [Coffee]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif)
TTFN - Kent
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The success or failure of a new Microsoft operating system version carries major consequences. Windows 11 will fix all those problems!
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It won't. I just downloaded and installed the CTP (or whatever they call it) on an old laptop and it's so much better than Weight. Not as good as Weven, but it has a Start menu. 
I also installed the Visual Studio 2015 CTP, and it's looking OK so far.
I just need to install SQL Server 2014. So far the ISO has refused to work. 
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I also installed the Visual Studio 2015 CTP, and it's looking OK so far.
CTP5 seems to have take a big backwards step for C++ Intellisense - it almost never gets useful suggestions, previous CTPs were an improvement.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0
My goal in life is to have a psychiatric disorder named after me.
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.
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It's not like there is other realistic alternative (don't let Microsoft know) for me. So I for one welcome my Windows #Whatevers. 
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Fail is a relative term.
A real failure would be for a viable alternative OS to become available and start to displace Windows. For that to occur the alternative must:
- Be relatively simple to setup and use
- Be open for expansion to hardware vendors
- Support any combination of hardware configurations
- Be able to run ~10 years worth of backwards compatible Windows software.
*** Win the support of developers
IMO Linux is the only one that even comes close to meeting those requirements. Unfortunately, there is no consensus between its users. All of which prefer there own distros that may or may not be compatible with other variations of the OS.
I have no idea what the future holds, but I would hate to see the open box general PC model disappear and give way to these closed and fixed tablet / All-in-one computing devices.
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Oh it won't fail on it's own merits. It's just great and I'm an old fart set in his start menu ways.
If 10 fails (And that mean I guess rejuvenates the "platform") it will only because that era is over.
And I think it is. More and more the people who come into our shop with computers for us to fix are older.
:Ron
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That's because the older folks with computers to fix are not part of the 'tech-savy' or 'throw-away' societies.
The younger folks are either fixing it themselves, or just buying new ones.
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Nu - uh
They are using tablets and moreover their phones.
Kids don't know how to fix em - not at least up here on this mountain.
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If you don't like Windows 10 when it comes out just stick to Windows 9 
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