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newton.saber wrote: It's just amazing that school moves this slowly. You can read an article on this an get much better, in depth information.
Back in my day, we bought learn to program anything in 21 days books. So just think, that professor has to stretch out all that information into a full semester while not looking foolish.
I'm questioning whether I'll ever send my kids to college or not... seriously... for what I do, I don't think I need a degree (although the HR folks tend to think it is required).
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Pualee wrote: that professor has to stretch out all that information into a full semester while not looking foolish.
I think you've perfectly summarized the situation. You could almost go one level deeper and say,
"Parents send children to school to get educated, but public education has been so slow that now University has to go slow for the _average_ learner. Plus, parents would not pay all those 10s and 100s of thousands of dollars for University if you could get a degree in only 1 year. That'd feel like a rip-off. " 
And so -- the solution -- the professor drags on. 
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He's probably getting paid by the hour 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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When I worked at the University in Jordan, we had a white-hat hacker come in to give a lecture. He had an hour and spent the 30 mins just introducing himself and his list of qualifications. He still allowed himself 15 mins Q&A time. I've never seen a lecturer in the UK introduce himself in this way over and above his (and they were all "he"s) name and contact details. Perhaps this is a US thing - "here are my credentials and here is why you should listen to me" kind of thing?? 
Anyway, the actual content was 15 mins long, and this consisted of running a tool he'd downloaded. One of the most disappointing sessions I've ever attended.
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Our company had a "popular" e-magazine writer come in to teach us how to improve our code and coding practices. His training consisted of “...in my book I explain insert method here in more detail, which is available at IamSuperSmart_BuyMyBooks.com"
The best part is, any of the information I thought was useful wasn’t considered because of cost or for being too difficult to implement.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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S Houghtelin wrote: training consisted of “...in my book I explain insert method here in more detail
That's the way it often goes. Sometimes I marvel that anyone learns anything at any time from any of those things.  Maybe they don't. It's a big industry though, so I guess money is being made and that's more important than learning. 
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Keith Barrow wrote: One of the most disappointing sessions I've ever attended.
Yes, it happens a lot with presenters. They just don't know how to focus. Fortunately I think TED talks are helping to show people a lot of great info can be given quickly and effectively.
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Education in the West has been dumbed down to such an extent that this is probably all that the typical student can assimilate. On the bright side, Western students have terrific self esteem. 
Rumour has it that this is not the case in Japan, China, or India. Were I in my twenties, I would be very worried.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Rumour has it that this is not the case in Japan, China, or India.
In India it's been that way as long as I can remember (50+ years). The bottom line is, if you don't cut it, you flunk. Flunk too many times and you're kicked out of your educational institution - be it school or university. You get credit for excelling, but no points for "participating". One learns at a very young age that you get out of life what you put in. And I think that's a very valuable lesson.
From my interactions with other foreign grad students in the US, I believe it's the same in China and Japan.
/ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote: The bottom line is, if you don't cut it, you flunk.
It used to be this way in Western countries, too. Anyone here read Kiplings' Gods of the Copybook Headings (especially the last verses)?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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IMHO, it still is in good educational institutions. BTW, the video if from a Harvard Extension course, not Harvard's standard CS degree program. Although I'm partial to MIT - their CS program rocks hugely. Here's[^] their version of CS 101 (jumped to clock time 16:15). 
/ravi
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I sit corrected. 
My basic assertion, however, still stands. I have some of my father's high-school mathematics books (from the 1950s), which are of higher standard than my high-school books (from the 1980s), which are again - of higher standard than books used by high-school students today.
The only consistent improvement in the books is in the layout - a matter of form over substance.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: high-school mathematics books (from the 1950s), which are of higher standard than my high-school books (from the 1980s)...
Math had to change, because it is a cruel discipline with teachers only allowing one anwser to be right.
That's mean-spirited.
Math should be graded more like term papers:
58% for style
27% for speling and gramar
17% for length (longer the better, cuz teacher doesn't readz, TL;DR)
32% for proper formatting
7% for content
Yes, you've been trolled, those numbers don't add up to 100%. 
That's because our students here at Boffo Academy of Intelligentsia go beyond 100%.
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newton.saber wrote: Yes, you've been trolled, those numbers don't add up to 100%
Silly me! I thought it was because of the New Math!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Where is the WSOCCC for today? 
You won on Friday, remember...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Don't worry I'm going to report him in Spam and Abuse if he doesn't post soon.
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Maybe he is still drunk (see his last post below).
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That's pretty much required practice for setting CCC's isn't it?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Quote: You won on Friday, remember...
I don't think so ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
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Any shameful reports from him, like did he sing karaoke etc? 
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Punish the sinner!
What is the CP equivalent of tar-and-feathers?
Life is too shor
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Visual Basic.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Fates Wose Than Death!
Life is too shor
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Really, I don't "C" your point... Witch indecently I find worse than C#
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