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no... yes...no...yes- oh for gods sake keep still
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Not trying to be funny, but how does a plane flying from Barcelona to Dusseldorf crash in the Alps?, it seems to be miles out of its way
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I read a theory from another pilot flying the same route that the pilot may have dropped altitude and changed course because of cabin pressure problems. But it is as I said only a theory...
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There are some interesting graphics here[^] showing the height that wreckage has been found at compared with the surrounding area, as well as recorded speed and height of the plane. If the information here is correct, it looks like something pretty serious happened about 10 minutes before impact.
In the case of cabin depressurization, you'd have though that the pilot would have veered away from the well known mountainous area..?
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Straight line is not always the best route for airplanes (air traffic and weather)
I'd rather be phishing!
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I can understand that but its not weather as far as I can tell there is no real bad weather in that area, air traffic - maybe but still looks a long way round
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This is interesting[^] it was heading towards Barcelonette, which has an airport. I wonder if the name relevant - confusion about the airports - perhaps a system truncating down to Barcelon (8 chars) or something.
Whatever, the flight path is very odd.
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are you suggesting the pilot somehow thought he had returned to Barcelona? well it would explain why the descended in the midst of all those mountains- no mountains around Barcelona are there?
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Something along those lines, The did have a distress beacon going, and the article say the data they do have is consistent with a normal landing approach. Used to happen occasionally in the old days, though I would assume with modern systems getting that lost would be near impossible though.
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They are saying that it descended 32000ft in 8 minutes that's 4000ft/m, normal landing approach (in this case Heathrow) is between 360 an 500ft/m so I would say that it was outside of a normal landing approach, in fact I would say that's a nose dive
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A straight line, or more accurately, a great circle route, is nearly impossible for airliners to fly today. They have to follow a complex set of air corridors, known a "controlled airspace" where they are under air traffic control at all time. To get from point A to B, the pilot will fly from point to point in controlled airspace, not a straight line. Rarely do they venture outside controlled airspace, but sometimes weather forces them to do so. Of course they try to follow the shortest route between their origin and destination, but that is usually not a straight route.
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Is the air corridor from Barcelona to Northern German over the Alps? has anyone here flow that route or one similar?
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I don't know the route this flight was supposed to take, I just wanted to point out that airliners do not always follow what we would consider a "straight line" to their destination.
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I get that I was wondering if anyone here had flow that or similar route
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I've flown several times from BCN to Frankfurt, Hannover and Munich and always I've used that route (or similar of course I'm not quite sure of the route followed by that plane, but I mean I've always flown the Alps).
I think airlines try to fly as far as possible from populated areas and therefore even it would be much easier to fly straight, they usually go through the sea a little bit and go inland near Marseille or Nice.
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thank you, that would tend to imply that it is a normal route
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
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if you look further down you see a map with a straight line between Barcelona and Dusseldorf drawn on it and the flight path added, I know flight paths are always curves but these just seems to be excessive, it is like they wanted to avoid French Airspace as much as possible
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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The straight line is something they have just photoshopped onto the map for quick reference. The map shown has been digitally warped to remove the effect of the curvature of the earth, so the straight line shown isn't how a straight path would appear in "real life", thus the flight path may appear less like the "straight line" path than it otherwise would. Nothing so far as indicated that the path was anything other than normal, but many have reported the altitude was not normal.
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I know that, its just it seems to be a big curve, bigger than I would have expected, if asked I would not have expected that a flight between Spain and northern Germany would fly across Switzerland, I am not saying there is anything fishy about it just unexpected
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No problem, thought you were going to be one of those tedious bores who are no doubt already posting on the internet that the plane was brought down by "the government" 
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I am not saying it was aliens but IT WAS ALIENS
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... it was aliens who were sent by the government.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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Cornelius Henning wrote: Horrible plane crash in French Alps
Such a shame it wasn't one of those "nice plane crashes"
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There are different degrees of horrible, and Captain Sullenberger's emergency landing of a plane (similar to this one, btw) on the Hudson River in 2009 - where all passengers were saved - was definitely a nicer plane crash than this one...
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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