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Kent Sharkey wrote: Not coming soon to a compiler near you
Except that it probably will, the proposal wasn't mature enough to make the C++17 standard, with only a single implementation being a major factor, but:
Quote: I’m confident that Concepts, in some form, will be added to C++19/20. I expect all of gcc, Clang, and Visual C++ to be shipping implementations well before the next standard is complete, hopefully within the next year.
If you'll be able to use a beta standard in production code's another issue (and more about risk management than anything technical I suppose).
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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It was a bad concept. 
Marc
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The only reliable, widely used way to ensure impeccable software quality is to write less software that does less stuff, and then spend eons honing that tiny lot. Obvious statement is obvious (but important to remember)
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Human without mistake and Software without bug are near to impossible.
Thanks & Regards
Puneet Goel
Save Paper >> Save Tree >> Save Humanity
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Windows now accounts for a mere 10% of the company’s revenue. You might not have seen this coming, but Microsoft did. Because (of course) it's The Year of Linux
I am nothing if not redundantly repetitive, right?
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Well, if someone's hosting Linux VMs on Azure, that's good revenue for Microsoft!
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There're lots of elephant droppings in that article;  starting back with the obfuscation that is the MS report itself. 
The breakdown used to write that dreck is:
http://zdnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2016/02/25/9a7158b6-1da2-4fb6-a499-c3c5c845e249/resize/770xauto/409d179d9b08c8b84781f62d84fd42e5/msft-revenue-1601.jpg[^]
Which puts consumer Windows at 10% of MS's revenue. That's not all the money they're getting from Windows (not even close).
You've also got "Windows (VL) and patent licensing". The first half of that category is the copy of Windows on your work computer (unless you work for a small business).
There's also "Server products, cloud services"; which includes whatever Windows server licenses you're using at work, any MS server applications (sql server, exchange, etc), and the azure cloud. The revenue picture for the latter is totally elephanteds all the way down.  MS is throwing in "free" Azure credits into their standard Software Assurance packages now (even if the customer says they don't want it  ) and using that to allocate some of the money from the SA agreement to Azure in the hope that at free the business will decide to try it for some experimental greenfield projects at which point it'll start growing on them. (Like a fungus. - Sarcasm courtesy of a former coworker re the Office 2007 ribbon.)
At the end of the day the actual amount of money they're getting from Windows is thoroughly obfuscated from everyone including most of MS; but is probably more like a quarter of the total; with office, all MS server products, all consumer products (gaming, surface, windows phone), being similar 15-25% guesstimated segments of the total.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Well subject headings are often hyperbolic, designed to grab attention!
Dan Neely wrote: At the end of the day the actual amount of money they're getting from Windows is thoroughly obfuscated from everyone including most of MS; but is probably more like a quarter of the total; with office, all MS server products, all consumer products (gaming, surface, windows phone), being similar 15-25% guesstimated segments of the total.
My take is that article is saying Windows revenue per se is far less important than it used to be. But obviously Windows itself is required to sell all their other stuff.
I think about a decade ago there was a three way split in revenue between Windows, Office and everything else, with profits being mostly 50-50 between Windows and Office. I assume the Windows share of profits is now much lower.
Kevin
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Yeah, MS has managed to grow a few other projects to a scale that matters to their bottom line, instead of Windows, Office, and Misc; it's Windows, Office, Server Apps, Xbox, and misc. Instead of a bipod, gone from a 3 legged stool, to a normal chair with cruft hanging down off the bottom where the seat fabric's a bit frayed. If the Surface line keeps growing in a few more years they could have a wheely chair built around 5 core business lines. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Of course the other 90% of their revenue needs Windows to run.
Marc
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This will enable SQL Server to deliver a consistent data platform across Windows Server and Linux, as well as on-premises and cloud. We are bringing the core relational database capabilities to preview today, and are targeting availability in mid-2017. Whaaaaaa?
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Yeah, that's one more thing from the "things I never thought I'd hear in my lifetime" box.
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In an email to partners, seen by VentureBeat, Microsoft is now targeting a release this month. Both of the people who still have their Lumias will be delighted
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Both of the people who still have their Lumias will be delighted
Hey, that's me!
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And I'm the other one! 
Kevin
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Visual Studio 2015 Update 2 release candidate speeds up C/C++ operations and fixes multiple performance issues. And of course, "Soup is good food"
Yeah. Pretty sad. I invite improvements, you're the funny ones after all.
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I remember that ad well. Yes, I'm old as dirt.
/ravi
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They couldn't soup it down any further? Bada bing!
Wout
modified 7-Mar-16 18:07pm.
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Microsoft's second major set of new features for Windows 10, known as 'Redstone 2,' are now a spring 2017 deliverable, meant to coincide with a new wave of Windows 10 hardware, sources say. Now you can hate on Windows 10 for a bit longer before it gets upgraded
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Now you can hate on Windows 10 for a bit longer before it gets upgraded
To then also upgrade the hate? 
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Quote: When I read the Winbeta report, my first thought was Microsoft was delaying Redstone 2 in order to attract more business users to the Windows 10 platform. While Windows fans and many consumers are fine with the idea of receiving regular bundles of new features, some business users aren't as keen, given internal requirements around testing and training.
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However, according to my contacts, enterprise push-back isn't the reason for the Windows 10 Redstone 2 delay. Instead, it's supposedly the next wave of Windows 10 devices from Microsoft.
Theory 2 sounds a lot more plausible to me too; if this has any impact on the roll out of W10 in the corporate environment I think it'll be to slow it down not accelerate it. If I were an enterprise IT director who was worried about if the new MS update model was going to elephant my network, I'd refuse to do a widespread deployment until (at least) after the first major update was out so I could see what happened with my test systems. The initial update last fall wouldn't count because MS hadn't really got the enterprise picture for W10 in place yet.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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New quantum computer, based on five atoms, factors numbers in a scalable way. Think of what they could do with a mole of them
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It's quite interesting (and 50% incomprehensible) as to what Shor's algorithm[^] does.
I do love this line in the wikipedia writeup:
another way to explain Shor's algorithm is by noting that it is just the quantum phase estimation algorithm in disguise.
"Just".
Pity Stargate Universe was so short-lived.
Marc
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