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On the one hand there is Paul Thurrott article[^] about Chromebook, explaining that one reason poeple like Chromebook is that they are easy to update / always up to date...
Now there is the furor about automatic Windows update.
I am a little confused as to what really pleases the user now.. No update? automatic update? Both at the same time?!  
Is the cat dead? or alive? or both?!
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Only as the particular user desires. I want neither auto-updates, nor a "subscription" plan.
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Never, in the long history of my computer use, have I ever let a program or application update itself automatically.
People who can't understand the sense behind that, and who don't take the time to read release notes, deserve to have the next brain-fart OS like vista or win 8 thrust on them.
They deserve all the ribbons and "alternative interfaces" that consume all their resources but aren't worth cr@p.
They deserve to keep finding that functions they use don't exist or work any more.
They deserve an earful from me, because it's their stupid attitude that allows -- and even encourages -- companies to to get away with the sh1t they pull.
Allowing something as critical as an OS -- which all your other programs (including drivers) depend on -- to auto update isn't just stupidity, it's madness.
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Well.. so if I get what you are implying, in a more straightforward fashion, it is like that, no?
1. 90% of the people rather have auto update
2. Those 90% are losers
Anything to add? correct?
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They're not losers, they're poorly advised.
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Super Lloyd wrote: one reason poeple like Chromebook is that they are easy to update / always up to date...
Really? You'd think people prefer function and even form over automatic updates... 
When was the last time you heard anyone say "I got this new computer and she has automatic updates, baby! Oh yeah, also the newest CPU, a ton of DDR4, and a super fast TB SSD HD... But those updates though!"? 
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Sander Rossel wrote: When was the last time you heard anyone say "I got this new computer and she has automatic updates, baby! Oh yeah, also the newest CPU, a ton of DDR4, and a super fast TB SSD HD... But those updates though!"?
When was the last time you heard anyone say "security was breached/data was lost because of legacy software"? 
Neglected Server Provided Entry for JPMorgan Hackers[^]
Forgotten risks hide in legacy systems[^]
I came into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they got the whole country sectioned off, you can't make a move without a form.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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I've never actually HEARD anyone say it.
Sure, it's in the news all the time. But who gets hacked? Not the average home computer...
The average user probably doesn't even know what "legacy" is. Or how to update software. Let alone it'd be some awesome feature they always wanted.
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Sander Rossel wrote: But who gets hacked? Not the average home computer...
Not sure I'd agree with that..
If I were a hacker, I'd hack wherever I thought I could gain the most.. meaning I'd go for the big companies. To do that, my logical starting point would be to head straight for social media (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Branded.me - find out who works where) and then off to individual PC's (via phishing) in order to get direct access into the corporates.
Feel free to not update your PC, don't install anti-virus, anti-malware or a firewall though.. 
I came into this game for the action, the excitement. Go anywhere, travel light, get in, get out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone. Now they got the whole country sectioned off, you can't make a move without a form.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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My home computer isn't my business computer (or linked to the business). That's why I call it my HOME computer. So good luck with that 
Besides, I DO keep all my software up-to-date. Then again, I'm not an average user
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And that just shows why people wouldn't buy a computer because it's always up-to-date/easy to update.
People just don't know or care about updates 
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Brent Jenkins wrote: Neglected Server Provided Entry for JPMorgan Hackers[^]
Yes, because you are JP Morgan, I am JP Morgan, everyone is JP Morgan, so every hacker in the world is queueing up to assault our unpatched servers.
Brent Jenkins wrote: Forgotten risks hide in legacy systems[^]
Thousands of words, but not one single verifiable example of any hacking occurrences given.
I'm calling billshut.
The massive investment by MS to wumao the "YOU MUST HAVE AUTOMATIC UPDATES OR YOUR FAMILY WILL DIE HORRIBLY!!!" bollocks has really paid off. Millions of people actually believe that the best protection against hackers is to give up all their rights on their property.
Sound familiar?
"YOU MUST GIVE UP YOUR DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS OR YOUR FAMILY WILL DIE HORRIBLY!!!" worked, so MS jumped on the bandwagon.
This is a rare instance where I've googled, before commenting, but I didn't find a single instance of people's machines being hacked because they did not allow MS to automatically update their operating system.
Nor did I find anything provable that says those who were hacked would have been protected by allowing MS to pwn them.
It's all smoke and mirrors, just like the ter'r'rist threat (which kills fewer people per year than babys' dummies (/soothers/pacifiers)).
The MS wumao brigade behind the "Windows 10 is the best windows ever!!!" propaganda are just as good. Sensible people are actually reciting the words by rote.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Yes, because you are JP Morgan, I am JP Morgan, everyone is JP Morgan, so every hacker in the world is queueing up to assault our unpatched servers.
They're not targeting you as you, what they are targeting with their attack scripts is every server on an IP address in the range: 1-255.1-255.1-255.1-255 either sequentially up and down the entire list of IPs or by randomly generating them one after the next. (Yes I know the smarter script kiddiots will exclude some unused sub ranges; but that's irrelevant to my point.) Unless your public facing servers are IPv6 only, that means you're in their crosshairs as much as everyone else. These auto-attack scanners cover the entire range of IPv4's fast enough that in many cases there may only be a few hours from when a popular CMS gets an attack published to when every non-patched server has to be assumed as compromised.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Yes, that's the theory, but there are still no instances of this happening that I found in s 15-minute google session (and my google-fu is not to be sneered at) (note: I don't use google, just as my hoover is a Dyson).
Why go to the trouble of trying to shotgun every IP in the world, when all you have to do is focus on e-mail addresses and phish -- which has been proven to work time and time again?
E.g. if you want to attack JP Morgan, you go for a phishing trip that emails [every initial].[every surname]@jpmorgan.com (or whatever their domain is).
That is what they do, and it works -- and it's so very, very easy that all the lovely theories about how they number-crunch are, and will forever remain, paranoid theories.
You're a developer. Would you go for the ridiculously ineffective big-numbers game, or take the KISS route, or go the simple but effective way?
They're developers, too, so there are no prizes for guessing the answer to that.
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Quote: Is the cat dead? or alive? or both?!
Only Schrodinger knows that!!
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The user cannot be pleased. Whatever is done will always be the opposite of what the user wants. What the user requests the user rejects when it is given. Users are contrary by default. Users can start an argument in an empty room. Failure to recognise the right of the user to be permanently unhappy will result in vituperative forum posting, mocking reviews, and an EU investigation leading to absurdly large fines and impossibly complex regulation whatever the actual verdict!
The user, in short, is why we can't have nice stuff. First, let's kill all the users!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Kill all human! 
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Yet another reason I am no hurry to leave 8.1 behind: [^].
fyi: if I didn't know that the WinAero site was a "serious" site, I'd probably consider this either a bad joke, or a bad rumor.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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You don't have to disable it completely, just select the first radio button below the switch, as it only allows local network computers, not computers on the internet.
It is completely off for me by default, it seems, which is file as I only have one WinX computer.
And yes, this means WinX can and does do this.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Windows 10 installs automatically and can put your computer in a botnet? Sounds like malware to me
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Love the way the site puts watermarks on the screenshots of the God-awful win 10 Control-Panel replacement.
"Yeah! Let's steal their screenshots! It's easier than hitting Alt+PrtScr!"
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Yes it can, the operative word being 'can', but we knew that long before it was even released. Why are we getting upset about it now?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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The first episode finally arrived to our shores on the weekend. All the comments seen before were unfortunately all very correct.
I’ve heard of Chris Evans before, although he has never really been on our screens here much before. (It really does bugger belief why he famous.) His voice is like fingernails on a blackboard which sends shivers on my spine and his mannerisms and looks are a bit like Brains from the Thunderbirds (no discredit to Brains intended). But that another story.
My question really, for all you UKians, who by now have seen later episodes is, Does it get any better or are you still having to cringe and quince every time Chris open his mouth, just to get to the tolerable parts of the program he not in?
modified 6-Jun-16 21:55pm.
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