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Just trying to get yer dander up! I can see it worked. 
Really though, every windows version has had its flaws. So what? Win 10 is no worse than any others, and in my estimation, is way better than all previous versions. Which is a lot like saying Win 10 is the worst windows version ever except for all the other versions.
Which I can say with some "authority" since I've been using Win 10 since it was in beta. And I've liked it ever since.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Just trying to get yer dander up! I can see it worked.
Jeeze, you've gotta stop trying to read between the lines, at least until you've had training in it*.
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Win 10 is no worse than any others
It's a lot worse, actually, especially if you're not a US subject.
* I charge uncompetitive rates for such training -- I'm the apple of pounding things into people's brains
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Jeeze
LMAO! As if!
Mark_Wallace wrote: actually
No, actually.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: LMAO! As if!
You're sounding an awful lot like a troll, right now.
I confess that I do find that annoying. Not the trolling -- I've been handling that effortlessly for thirty years -- but the fact that you should know better.
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Sorry for that. Not meant to be trolling. You're right, I should know better.
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Mark, you've been trolling about Windows 10 for months now. Nobody can say a damn thing about it without you jumping down their throat. Some of like Windows 10, have never had a problem with it and are a little tired of rants, many of which are pure ignorance.
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There's a Hell of a difference between trolling and expressing an honest and considered opinion.
Unless you're saying that no-one is entitled to an opinion that disagrees with your own, of course, in which case, your honest opinion may be a little too deeply ingrained.
If you have something good to say about winio, I'd like to hear it, but, so far, all the "good things" I've heard about it are no more than repetitions of the wumao "It's the best windows ever!"
Better security?
Quite the opposite. Allowing a (foreign, in my case) corporation to take ownership of your property is the complete antithesis of good security (good security means keeping doors closed and locked, not opening them to strangers)-- not to mention that the best way to ensure the security of your machine is by using third-party software, not through the wumao-promoted windows updates.
Faster?
Not true. Not even remotely true. Hell, if you want fast, do everything from the command line; that'll show you how fast this "miraculous" OS is.
More productive?
Most certainly not true -- unless you consider that being given loads of emoji for use in facebook and twitter is an improvement in productivity.
Give me something!
Tell me something about winio that unarguably makes it "the best windows ever!"
Calling disagreement trolling just don't cut it -- and do yourself a favour: don't call me a troll. I know how to play-act, but I'm no-one's moron.
All I ever get in response to my complaints is wumao garbage. No-one has ever put forward a definite, provable (give me proof, and I'll believe it) argument.
What is better about the completely ****ing useless OSK that comes with winio?
What is better about the amount of data they upload about you (to foreign soil)?
What is better about the ridiculous baby-block interface?
What is better about forced updates?
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
Everything I have complained about is Real, and I have given intelligent arguments for everything I've complained about (couched in p!ss-take phrasing, perhaps, but I'm me, after all).
"Some of like Windows 10, have never had a problem with it" is not an intelligent response to intelligent complaints (especially since "never" began only a year ago).
Don't give me wumao statements, don't give me fanbois statements, don't even Think about using the word "troll".
If you want me to believe you, give me solid, intelligent arguments.
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OK.
1. Cakewalk, who produce audio software, have found Windows from 8 onwards has kept improving disk throughput and recommend it for audio production.
2. Improved startup speeds.
3. Even on an update install, I found W10 took less disk space after installation.
Real, measurable improvements.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Rob Grainger wrote: 1. Cakewalk, who produce audio software, have found Windows from 8 onwards has kept improving disk throughput and recommend it for audio production.
That's only because delayed write is far more effective, now that everyone has multiple cores (and more developers are getting used to multi-threading).
Rob Grainger wrote: 2. Improved startup speeds.
Through the same kind of buggy, unstable caching used for hibernate. Give it a while, and start-ups will probably get worse and worse -- and, like hibernate, I imagine fast-start will be the cause of a whole bunch of new problems.
Rob Grainger wrote: 3. Even on an update install, I found W10 took less disk space after installation.
OK, I'll grant that one, but it's only because they've optimised graphics and animations a lot (not for us, but for phones -- mobile first, and all that). After the hundred-odd gig of graphical guff they added for vista, reducing it by a lot can't have been too hard -- but I certainly don't see that as a good reason to use winio; I've got way more disc space now than I ever had with Vista.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: unnecessary computer technology
GASP!
Hold him down, boys. I'm washing his mouth out with SOAP.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm washing his mouth out with SOAP
As long as it's the technological object access protocol, and not that ancient waxy stuff that's not even remotely digital or electronic.
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It's either that or I hunt around in the back of the cupboard for an old box of XML-RPC.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: XML-RPC
meh.
XML is a baby's toy to them of us what was weaned on postscript. The Castrated PS, I call it, so not only is it the wussy version of ancient tech, but it's not even as good as ancient tech.
Would you replace your autodrive, rear-view cam, GPS-enabled car for a replica horse and cart that doesn't even go as fast or as comfortably as an ancient one?
Welcome to XML.
... As in You're welcome to it; I don't want the damned annoying stuff.
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And nobody noticed it with Weight because they couldn't stand to turn it on at all? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Amazingly, weight always slips right past me, when I think of windows versions.
I wonder why that is.
More amazingly: this lappy is weight! (Not that you'd believe it if you used it -- it's astounding how much of weight you can overwrite with weven files, if you tweak the registry and the policies enough.)
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Use smaller fonts: it's amazing how much weight you can shed...
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Belly belly belly belly belly
How long before I can expect results?
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Depends how fat your fingers are to start with.
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Actually I saw serious problems with hibernate with Windows 7 and [especially] XP and disabled it on both.
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Yup.
I saw it as a great idea, when it came out (with '98? I don't remember) but it never worked well, so I tried it with each new "improvement" of windows, but always stopped using it in short order.
As I say, I think the main problem is timestamps -- the "blanks" in the time-frame -- but that's at least 60% assumption; I've never debugged it.
If I've guessed right, then as software (like chrome) gets more and more intrusive about user behaviour, the problem is bound to get worse, so the biggest glitches will show up there first.
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Odd that, I'm still using W7 at work, and that has a persistent problem that causes it to reboot in the middle of a hibernate/sleep cycle, or even when the PC is locked. It's persisted even after the system was rebuilt. On a Dell desktop system.
Bit of a pain, as it limits my capability to work from home as I keep having to dial in to tell someone to wake my PC every time I have a break.
Pretty sure I've seen similar issues (or worse) on most prior versions of Windows, but (apart from an issue updating UWP apps, that I really don't care about) my W10 desktop at home has been solid as a rock.
But that's anecdotal evidence for you, pretty well worthless in the absence of deeper, more methodical surveys.
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Alan Kay.
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Hibernate was always unstable, which is probably why they implemented fast-start as an immutable feature (it's not hibernate, but it's got all the bugs that hibernate had/has).
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Hmmm, I didn't have any trouble with that. Was it supposed to sound like something else?
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