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Chris C-B21-Sep-16 1:15

Chris C-B

21-Sep-16 1:15

Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Can't you post it in the soapbox, I'm always open to expand my vocabulary. $Shucks | :-\$

I'm afraid it went to that great bit-bucket in the sky on Saturday morning when I realized that even I did not know many of the words I used. Laugh | :laugh:

Mycroft Holmes21-Sep-16 1:04

Mycroft Holmes

21-Sep-16 1:04

I wish there was an upside to this where could sarcastically point out that you should have done this or that but there just isn't.

I took my brand new laptop - win 10 - away last week to where I have limited, very expensive bandwidth. Guess what happened.

They are really trying to piss off their user base.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Chris C-B21-Sep-16 1:11

Chris C-B

21-Sep-16 1:11

Mycroft Holmes wrote:
They ~~are~~ have really ~~trying to~~ pissed off their user base.

FTFY

DaveAuld21-Sep-16 1:53

DaveAuld

21-Sep-16 1:53

No issues with Win10 on my ThinkPad X1 Carbon...and that included the autoupdate from win 8.1

Dave
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Mark_Wallace21-Sep-16 9:44

Mark_Wallace

21-Sep-16 9:44

DaveAuld wrote:
No issues yet with Win10 on my ThinkPad X1 Carbon...and that included the autoupdate from win 8.1

Law of averages.

The number of nightmare stories about winio is immense. I've already had two. You're bound to get one soon.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Marc Clifton21-Sep-16 1:53

Marc Clifton

21-Sep-16 1:53

Chris C-B wrote:
AS A LAPTOP OPERATING SYSTEM

I'm not sure I would limit it to just laptops. Wink | ;)

Marc

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Mark_Wallace21-Sep-16 9:45

Mark_Wallace

21-Sep-16 9:45

heh.

Yeah, it's a universal nightmare.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

BillWoodruff21-Sep-16 3:16

BillWoodruff

21-Sep-16 3:16

Have you thought setting the option in the Win10 update-facility that lets you define a range of hours in which (theoretically ?) it will not attempt to update/restart ?

Settings/Update & Security/Windows Update/Change Active Hours

bon voyage, Bill

«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008

Chris C-B21-Sep-16 3:34

Chris C-B

21-Sep-16 3:34

In Win 10 Pro, I don't have that option. All I have is the 'Notify to schedule restart' set. Apparently, this is ignored for what MS considers 'Critical updates' - which must be the case as I have it set.

I also have 'Defer upgrades' set - so no anniversary update yet. Maybe when I retire... Laugh | :laugh:

Mark_Wallace21-Sep-16 9:49

Mark_Wallace

21-Sep-16 9:49

Unfortunately, the option is not present on some machines, and treated as a "guideline" on the rest (i.e. totally ignored, four times out of nine).

Another option, which does actually do some good, is the "metered connection" setting (wi-fi only) -- but if you set that, winio will not allow you to use bluetooth at all, out of pure bitchiness, I presume.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Joe Woodbury21-Sep-16 12:46

Joe Woodbury

21-Sep-16 12:46

Have Windows 10 on the dell sitting next to me. Works just fine. My sons are still using Windows 7 on their laptops--big pain in the ass.

CCC OTD 21-09-16

LabVIEWstuff20-Sep-16 23:52

LabVIEWstuff

20-Sep-16 23:52

"Early German eats noodle soup and finishes off with a drug, resulting in this blown instrument (9)"

Good luck!

Andy B

PeejayAdams21-Sep-16 0:26

PeejayAdams

21-Sep-16 0:26

Saxophone

Saxon - early Germanic tribe.
Pho - Noodle soup - Vietnamese - had to look it up but it sounds quite nice.
E - I wouldn't know ...

LabVIEWstuff21-Sep-16 0:40

LabVIEWstuff

21-Sep-16 0:40

Well done! You're up tomorrow Smile | :)

Nagy Vilmos21-Sep-16 0:27

21-Sep-16 0:27

Saxophone

Early German - SAXON
eats - put in...
noodle soup - PHO
finishes off with a drug - E

blown instrument - SAXO-PHO-N-E

danged second, now I can't waste my morning tomorrow Big Grin | :-D

veni bibi saltavi

OriginalGriff21-Sep-16 0:32

OriginalGriff

21-Sep-16 0:32

Hah! You will anyway! Laugh | :laugh:

Me? I was trying to work HARMONICA in there... Sigh | :sigh:

Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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kiLLe_51220-Sep-16 21:56

kiLLe_512

20-Sep-16 21:56

Good morning guys!

I don't post that often over here, but I thought I might give it a try with the following situation I currently find myself in.

With the recent cockups MS has been making (NSA, no VoIP support on mobile SDK, End User License agreement questionability etc.), I have decided to take a stab at Ubuntu/Linux. Now I am not an expert on using that OS, but I find myself comfortably using it for the most part and for the instances where I do get stuck, Google usually has my back.

I am a 9 years+ experienced .Net developer in C# with some SQL background (for the most part). I want to broaden my horizons a bit and want to start coding some more in C, C++ and maybe a little Java and I think the best way to learn might be to start contributing to some open source projects using Linux as my dev environment, but I have no idea where to start.

I have installed Git, Android Studio, VSCode, compiled and executed a basic .Net Core console app, I did a helloworld with C and gcc, but I really want to get to the more gritty C stuff and start learning how the olden gray-bearded ones did/do things.

My question(s) is/are this:

Is Eclipse still a viable IDE to use, or do you have any better suggestions? What tips do you guys have for transitioning from VS2015 C# .Net to Linux C development? Do you have any open source project recommendations that I might look at as I embark on this new, strange journey? Is the earth in fact flat?

I'm really excited, but I am completely lost. Big Grin | :-D

Any suggestions would be welcome.

while(alive)
{
Code();
Sleep();
Eat();
AllTheOtherNonEssentials();
}

throw new ObjectDisposedException();

Nagy Vilmos20-Sep-16 22:08

20-Sep-16 22:08

I think with Java IDE's you'll find most people are quite opinionated about which is better and it is generally the one they are more used to.
I have used both Eclipse and Netbeans and they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Trying to be objective, I'd choose Netbeans, as I have had mostly positive experiences with it, over Eclipse, which is steaming pile of doggy doo-doos.

Hope this helps.

veni bibi saltavi

OriginalGriff20-Sep-16 22:12

OriginalGriff

20-Sep-16 22:12

Nagy Vilmos wrote:
Trying to be objective, ... Eclipse ... is steaming pile of doggy doo-doos.

O...Kay.
So if you weren't being objective you'd be rude about it? Laugh | :laugh:

Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

Richard MacCutchan20-Sep-16 22:20

Richard MacCutchan

20-Sep-16 22:20

I used Eclipse at work and home and found it did everything I needed: never steamed and never looked like cr*p. Tried Netbeans a couple of times but I never felt comfortable with it.

Nagy Vilmos20-Sep-16 22:25

20-Sep-16 22:25

Exactly. They both work well, or well work, but, to be serious for a moment, I don't think it is really an easy thing to switch between the two as they behave very differently.

veni bibi saltavi

Richard MacCutchan20-Sep-16 22:31

Richard MacCutchan

20-Sep-16 22:31

Very true. BTW How is life in Redacted?

OriginalGriff20-Sep-16 22:38

OriginalGriff

20-Sep-16 22:38

Gin less[^]

Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

Nagy Vilmos20-Sep-16 22:40

20-Sep-16 22:40

It's not too bad, so far, but we're still just finding our feet. There is a small problemette in the total lack of BACON but we're surviving; actually a colleague brought us some over at the weekend.

veni bibi saltavi