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Hi All,
Had a bit of an odd thought, some here might be able to shed more light on... I am starting to wonder if the interview process is more to do with 'can we work with this guy' more than 'this guy has X years of Y'. This is based on the fact that tech based skills change so often it can be nearly impossible for anyone to stay at the bleeding edge. Am I right... 
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You are probably right - we definitely do interview on the basis of "how do you work when there are things you don't know" rather than "what things do you know" as both IT and our vertical business change so very rapidly.
(In that context a GitHub or a Codeproject article etc. is more useful to us than a CV)
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I must say a couple of places I interviewed at did have a print out of my CP article...
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glennPattonInThePUB wrote: I must say a couple of places I interviewed at did have a print out of my CP article...
Was is placed under a big banner that said "don't be this guy"? 
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I was starting to wonder 
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IMO, yes, and no.
Yes, in that recruiting is expensive, so most large companies recruit for the long term. As such, they want to see that you (a) are a decent guy to work with, (b) know something about the field at present, and (c) can master new technologies as they come along. No, in that the recruiters use a filter of 'X years of Y' in order to separate the sheep from the goats.
There is a fundamental mismatch between a large companies' actual requirements and those that the recruiters apply, which leads to much frustration on both sides. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Quote: There is a fundamental mismatch between a large companies' actual requirements and those that the recruiters apply, which leads to much frustration on both sides. Sigh |
Tell me about!
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Interview processes, IMHO, should probably find answers to following questions not in any particular order:
- We have to do work X now. Can this person do it with standards that we follow or like to achieve?
- Once X is over, we need to work on Y and might also get Z to do. Will this person be useful then?
- Does this person look like he can adapt to our work culture?
- Is it probable that this person will be around as long as we would want him to be?
- Does this person look like he is willing to learn new things or rather open to change and criticism?
- He claims to be having X years of experience. Do we see expected maturity levels at this experience?*
However, many a times I have seen a job paired with years of experience. That is sometimes incorrect pairing. A person with any amount of experience can be
- Incompetent
- Rigid in the way he works
- Madly in love with technology he has worked with, hence not open for newer things.
*Technologies may have changed but I believe certain qualities only come with experience.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Quote: Does this person look like he can adapt to our work culture?
I tend to view this as can we sit down and have a ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) with them or will a horrible argument be the result... but I'm not managment.
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Why would you go out for with management? What would you b!tch about then?
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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True...I was thinking of one company I worked for where I think I was taken on as I could handle both of the engineers above me. They did not like each other!
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Well in my case it was because they had the expense account and company credit card...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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glennPattonInThePUB wrote: I am starting to wonder if the interview process is more to do with 'can we work with this guy' more than 'this guy has X years of Y'.
Yes, that is the case.
IMO. If new employee is not "fun" to work with, all his experience counts for nothing.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I am now worried about the company who hired me, are they as sick & twisted as me???  
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For sure this is true in Asia, for some reason there they really believe it's HR's job to hire staff at any level for any department for any function; even the head hunting firms (premium firms included) that are located there have moved to this model.
Not joking but really don't bother applying if you are ugly, fat, wrong color ... (unless you are family.) Sure some Asian countries have 'anti discrimination' laws, and 'proper ladies' never fart in public.
Hey', it's just my opinion after being there > 20 years, and inasmuch it's one of the top [of many] key reasons why Asia will forever be a follower: they may be faster, they may have more, they are often more efficient, but they won't be first.
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From what I have heard HR try to get themselves in the loop so they are harder to get rid of. Never met one who was any use! Interesting to get Asia view. I think I lost out on one job as I was taller than the guy interviewing me.
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I use the BBC/News website as my home page within Internet Explorer on Win10. Everything is OK until I accidentally close IE. When I re-open it, IE has a lot of trouble displaying my home page again. The speed is very slow to the point that sometimes it won't open at all, even though the URL is displayed correctly. If it does open, using the site is very slow. To fix the problem, I have restart Win10.
Does anyone else experience this problem with their homepage?
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No.
But then, I don't use IE.
Try Chrome: it just works for me!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Are you noticing that Chrome has started to crash and hang a lot these days?
I guess now that Google is 18, it is trying out new things which is affecting its chrome.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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The best version of 'Chrome' is called "FireFox"
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It has been years I have used firefox. I think it deserves another chance.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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No, not at all.
It works fine for me...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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No, I haven't. What does crash a lot is Flash.
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Browser home pages are meant to show about:blank.
No delay, no wasting bandwidth or checking the cache to load a page you might not be interested in viewing this particular time you launch the browser.
If you have to ask, yes, I'm the guy who has his desktop "wallpaper" set to solid black.
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