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Thanks and that is an interesting perspective.
Also, I agree about the quality of dev environments, especially in relation to Eclipse.
Eclipse dev under Android was so difficult to open projects / transfer them to other systems.
I never could get it quite right. Android Studio is quite a bit better.
I'm spoiled from Visual Studio though, of course. Even back in the days of MFC programming I could easily build a project and move it to another build machine and work on it there.
Wow, now that I've used all these dev environments (XCode, Visual Studio, Eclipse, Android Studio) and because of your comments, I guess it is making me think about IDEs like I have never before.
I've used QuickC (MS) and TurboC++ and TurboPascal (with Borland IDE) in the distant past too.
QuickBasic IDE wasn't bad. 
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One of the guys, Superloyd I think, is bitching about have huge deployment problems with Xamarin. Have you had many issues and have you deployed apps successfully using Xamarin.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I haven't had any deployment (or other) problems with Xamarin. I use Xamarin Android to develop Android apps using C#. I don't (yet) develop using Xamarin Forms.
/ravi
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Thanks, Raddevus, for this interesting post !
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Well, sure. Thanks for reading and letting me know you enjoyed it.
I really encourage anyone who can to try developing apps on all of the Big 3 (Android, Apple, Microsoft) platforms. It's quite interesting. Especially if you attempt to develop the same app on all three.
Let me know if you try it. 
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Just wait until you submit you app to the store. If you're lucky, the reviewer will be a reasonable human being. If not, you will learn why so many publishers never update their iOS apps (and wonder why anyone writes iOS apps at all.)
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Joe Woodbury wrote: Just wait until you submit you app to the store.
Uh oh. I was already worried about that.
Joe Woodbury wrote: you will learn why so many publishers never update their iOS apps (and wonder why anyone writes iOS apps at all.)
Can you elaborate on that? I'm really curious, because I was considering getting my app out there as quickly as possible and then updating it very quickly.
Now, I'm wondering if you want to get your app _perfect_ before ever submitting.
It sounds like it.
Thanks for commenting. I'm really interested.
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raddevus wrote: Can you elaborate on that
Unless they've changed the rules, every time you do a non-trivial update, you have to resubmit your application for review. This costs money and time and an app that previously passed may be rejected.
Then there is the problem that if Apple has added more must-haves (which may not be an issue now, but when I was working on an iOS app--which was eventually cancelled--Apple was rapidly changing the purchase system) in which case a "trivial" update becomes a more complicated one.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain.
Joe Woodbury wrote: every time you do a non-trivial update, you have to resubmit your application for review. This costs money and time and an app that previously passed may be rejected.
That is all really quite terrible.
I don't look forward to it at all. I mean they should obviously vet apps and make sure they're not malicious but there are just so many barriers for a real dev.
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Did some reading. It appears that app submission is included in the price of the developer subscription. However, there are still your own expenses.
Do make sure you submit an application with the right account. Sounds obvious, but in a corporate environment with several accounts, this is a mistake which can be made. You also need to maintain the developer subscription for the submission to keep the app available. (The horror story is that a developer submits the app under his/her account and then leaves the company.)
Apple also now has a formal Enterprise Program, where you can publish apps for use within an enterprise. (Yeah, it's probably been around for a while, but noticed just now.)
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That's all great information. Thanks very much for sharing.
Additionally, I know that getting a dev account set up under a company is a bit of a pain.
You have to supply information (DUNS) to Apple proving that the company is valid and then you wait up to 30 days for verification.
If you set it up as a private account it doesn't take as long.
When I started out, I didn't believe I could even deploy to my iPad -- thought I had to have a dev account set up to "provision" the app. Then I gave it a shot and connected the iPad directly to my Mac Mini and it worked.
Too Many Apps Deployed
However, I was messing around building a few apps and deploying them to the iPad. All of a sudden I received an error stating,
"maximum number of apps for free development profiles has been reached"
You can see what it looked like at:
http://i.stack.imbur.com/BO9X8.png[^]
At first I thought I was toast and I was quite annoyed.
I did some searching and found out that you just have to delete the other apps and it worked again.
I only had 3 apps on the device. So, it's obviously very limited.
I'm also a bit worried because other people say the test provisioning only works for 1 week. I'm really hoping that my ability to deploy doesn't go away before the dev account is set up.
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Where do sheep get the wool on their skin trimmed?
At the Baaaaarbers, of course.
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Abhinav S wrote: Baaaaarbers
I went to one just last week, I got fleeced...
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Shear insanity!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Must have been a hair raising experience!
/ravi
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Good Afternoon,
Today's London Code specials are:
1. Code pie
2. English muffins
3. Breakfast code tea with sausage
4. Code cookies with bacon.
Many more menu choices
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Got any Java?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Hi All,
I have noticed something odd about the Win 10 anniversary update and related stuff. When AVG starts a scan it get so far and I get a red box telling me an issue with a file is causing a restart. It was getting boring so I disabled AVG and have not had to restart. Anybody use 3rd party AV software in 10... 
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Yes, Sophos. And it works very good 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I use Avast on some of the Windows 10 machines and Comodo Internet Security 8.4 and 10 (beta) on some of them (all build 14393 ie. 1607). All work well for me.
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Avira Free has occasionally annoying ad-popups, but has been working well.
I tried Avast, but it annoyed me for reasons I don't remember (it was probably the nagging to upgrade.)
Sounds to me like you have some corruption. Have you run a chkdsk on the drive?
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It would be revolutionary. Visual Studio needs a Backup function, that backs up the VS installation, all its settings, all its extensions and their settings, all SDKs it installed, etc. I used to do a fairly regular Windows Reset, but keep my files, but it did mess with some VS stuff. I would actually like to do a clean, fresh install again. It would feel like taking a shower in terms of using me computer (in other terms I do that more regularly), but especially now with Xamarin, re-installing VS would be quite an affair.
BTW, off-topic, how do I turn the url in my sig into a hyperlink?
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, http://erisia.com/.
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I'd be happy if it just preserved my settings when I upgraded - particularly where I put my property pane, solution explorer, output, server explorer, ...
It's a PITA to get them all back where I expect them - and I still can't get VS2013 to put Properties on top of "Find and Replace" ... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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None of my panes are pinned, so so hassle for me. But the Xamarin stuff is getting scarier my the minute. I'm trying to get an Android emulator up and running, and I've done about 7 large downloads in the last ten minutes.
Follow my adventures with .NET Core at my new blog, http://erisia.com/.
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Brady Kelly wrote: Visual Studio needs a Backup function
Sounds like you've got some work to do 
Brady Kelly wrote: how do I turn the url in my sig into a hyperlink?
With HTML, <a href="http://erisia.com/" alt="Something here..." target="_blank">Erisia</a> should do the trick 
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