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Man, if I had a pumpernickel for every bad joke I've read on this forum...
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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03:30 Cat throws up hairballs on the bed. Luckily, manage to remove cat from bed, so only have to use spot cleaner vacuum on the carpet rather than change the duvet.
10:30 Dentist. 11:45 get home, one tooth prepared for a crown which won;t be fitted for three weeks. Head hurts, gum hurts.
14:15 Courier arrives with replacement UPS - original had clearly been dropped and was returned. Have to go out, will open it after lunch.
15:00 Original box better, but photograph unpacking just in case. Turn on new UPS and it powers up my monitor! Yes! Get it all settled in it's new location, ready for me to swap cabling over from UK mains plugs to IEE sockets. Plug in UPS to fully charge.
BEEEEEEEP! "FAULT" shows on display... 
Try again, same thing. UPS works when not connected to mains, doesn't work when plugged in. Oh, Amazon ... time to come get it ...
I'm guessing that it's a bit on the fragile side, and can't cope with couriers heavy handed approach to life. Refund this time, and I'll find another manufacturer. Maybe they will be a bit more robust.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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You know what the worst part is?
Today will still suck tomorrow.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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I guess I'm lucky my dentist has one of those CEREC devices, tooth prepped, crown made, installed, and tweaked, 1hr, 'tis a good thing.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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My mouth feels like the only equipment the dentist possesses is a hammer and chisel...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Sorry to hear, normally I'm eatin' inside of a half hour, no muss no fuss.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Most UPS' are sensitive to polarization, try to swap live and neutral.
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What kind of battery is in there? Anything of the lithium something type? I had a few that had fallen out of the sky that were showing signs of damage while optically still looking intact. I did not wait for them to swell or become a hazard in any other way. Desite their high capacity, lithium something batteries are not a good choice for this application. If they stay charged constantly, they don't live very long, lose capacity and in the end again become quite hazardous.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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2 off 12V/10Ah Lithium, for a total machine weight of 14Kg.
Hence when I was sure the first one was dropped, it went back despite appearing to work now. Last thing I need is leaky batteries...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I go flying with these Lithium Polymere batteries[^]. Even after two years they don't show much degradation yet. They still have a low inner resistance and I have not yet noticed any loss of capacity and I check ater every flight. Still, LiPos are really dangerous if you don't treat them well.
Physical damage, shorts, keeping them charged over longer times, discharging them too low or letting them get too hot will kill them. They don't exactly leak. They bloat up and release really unhealthy gas. This gas can even ignite and fill the room wit incredible amounts of poisonous smoke. In other words: Discharge and get rid of them at the first sign of trouble. Don't wait.
I don't think that LiPos would be a good choice for yor device. The batteries must be some other flavor of the Lithim family. Perhaps LiFe (Lithium Iron)?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
modified 1-Nov-16 16:54pm.
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Purely from the weight, I was half expecting teeth to be lead acid! 
Mind you, years ago the place I was working hit by a ground strike: took out the telephone exchange, fax machine, and every IDE card in all computers that were plugged in. We were up and running the next day.
The company down the road wasn't so lucky. Their UPS exploded, and sprayed the VAX with battery acid... Nasty.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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All of the UPSes I've had experience with have utilized sealed non-spillable lead-acid batteries. As far as I know, these are the best for UPS applications, as they weather the trickle-charging required for constant readiness the best of all types of rechargeable batteries.
I don't know of any UPSes that utilize anything else, but would certainly be interested in both knowing about them, and the reasoning behind why the manufacturer chose to use them.
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I think so too. Using Batteries that take damage from staying charged permanently does not sound like a good idea, even if they have higher capacities or allow a higher discharge rate.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Cat throws up hairballs on the bed.
Not the first time we hear this about your cat, I think...how many lives does he get?
(and I'll admit to actually liking cats)
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He'll appreciate that.
On a totally different note I thought the link to "Fart Blamed for Causing a Fire During Surgery at a Tokyo Hospital" to be equally as odd.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Some times the link is worth clicking on just for "WTF is that about"!
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Mike Hankey wrote: On a totally different note
One might even say it's a brown note...
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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This really is great. Why change anything as long as it does its job?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: Why change anything
Because we can.
More ... bigger ... faster ... better.....
Ken
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A while ago when I still had Windows 3.1, a friend came with his copy of Windows 3.11. He really forced me to install it and insisted that everything was sooo much better. I did not see a thing.
Never change a running system unless you have a very good reason. Marketing blah blah is not a reason for anything. Computers actually age well. They can work for decades and don't get slower. Even the workmanship used to be better, so what do I need bigger, faster, better for if the old machine was and still is up to the task?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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All true, but you did catch me with the Win 3.1 and 3.11. Now if you insisted on 8" floppies, I might have an argument for that....
Ken 
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RTek23 wrote: Seen this....
Yeah, seen this a few weeks ago in fact. Though I'll be damned if I can find it right now. But it was definitely in the lounge...
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